New Black Cabinet Feature: Fake/Counterfeit Certified Coin Lookup

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SteveCaruso Pillar of the Community United States 1796 Posts	Posted 01/16/2015 9:54 pm As The Black Cabinet's database grows and we add in the faked certification numbers off of counterfeit PCGS, NGC, ICG, and ANACS slabs, you can now search by fake cert number directly with the Counterfeit Certified Coin Lookup feature. Simply select the Third Party Grading Service ( TPG) and type in the certification number as it appears on the slab, and it will return any matches from the database. As this feature develops, in the future there will be a means for users to input their certification numbers into a list on an account and dispatch email alerts when a counterfeit match is added. More as things progress. :-) http://fakes.numismetrica.com/tpg-check/ http://fakes.numismetrica.com/2015/...coin-lookup/ (Granted there are only 5 presently entered. But there are about a hundred in the queue.) Edited by SteveCaruso 01/16/2015 9:56 pm Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 01/16/2015 10:17 pm We gotta get word out about this. You should still have an unanswered email from me somewhere. I have a coin for you. Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 01/16/2015 10:26 pm I have a reasonable collection of fake ancient coins, of varying degrees of excellence. They have been of great educational value to me, in learning how to identify some of the more deceiving of fake ancient coins. A suspect slab should be compared to the 'black' data base before cracking. Slabbing makes coins harder confirm if fake or not, unless you break them out to confirm weight. Examining with a loupe, and XRF testing is then possible as well. The coin after breaking out can then also be compared to the 'black' data base. With ancient coins, photography on the 'black' data base is very useful when comparing for style and fabric. Edited by sel_69l 01/16/2015 10:27 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coinlover168 Pillar of the Community United States 506 Posts	Posted 01/16/2015 11:08 pm What if they use a real certification number? I believe there was a coin on this forum where it was a fake slab and coin but when verified on PCGS, the coin date and mint mark matched PCGS's database. Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 01/16/2015 11:18 pm If you have two slabs with the same certification number, you have a real problem, irrespective of weather the coin inside is authentic or not. Report this Post to the Staff
SteveCaruso Pillar of the Community United States 1796 Posts	Posted 01/17/2015 01:21 am They usually use a real certification number and they try and use certs without pictures (although some do use cert numbers with pictures which then becomes a dead giveaway :-) ). If you know a certification number has been compromised, then you know to be extra-wary if you see it up on ebay -- or if you've already purchased it, know to send it in to the TPG to have it checked. Edited by SteveCaruso 01/17/2015 01:22 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188770 Posts	Posted 01/19/2015 11:18 am Excellent! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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New Black Cabinet Feature: Counterfeit Certified Coin Lookup