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1982 Cent Small Date DDR- Please Look- I'd Love Any Feedback

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Hi guys!
The 1982 small date DDR zinc Lincoln Cent is my choice of "the one" to find right now, I've been intrigued by it since I stumbled upon an article about it online. Since then I've tried to gain access to any information I could find online but have had no luck finding a local coin shop that knows a whole lot about it. I know it could be worth a little or a lot but either way I want it! Here's the first one I feel confident enough to ask you guys about, I know your very honest and knowledgeable and I need to know if my eye for coin errors is good. I did my best to take clear photos, I'm seeing doubling in all suggested areas and also the markings associated with identifying this 1982 error. Please look and give me your thoughts? Thank you :)

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 Posted 01/17/2015  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shtudentt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
all what I see,just normal cent,sorry
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 Posted 01/18/2015  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiffscoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your feedback, as I'm looking through my posted photos I'm realizing they are not the crystal clear photos I started with before trying to optimize and edit. Do you have any advice for what size and quality percentage I should pick in order to show the pictures I'm seeing? Any picture taking advice when it comes to photo graphing coins in the future? Thank you again.
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 Posted 01/18/2015  01:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes - it looks to be a normal reverse. Have you gone to Coppercoins to do some research? The DDR is also for the zinc specimen and is very rare. I think I read somewhere that only a handful or so are known to exist. It's a coin we variety hunters look for, but in reality, the odds of finding one are remote.

Good luck on the hunt!
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 Posted 01/18/2015  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your pictures are pretty good. I think Coop likes the pic's to be around 600 or so and from there you can play a bit with the quality. That said, you need to judge whether a 500 photo at higher quality is better than a 600 photo at lower quality. You'll dial it in and from what you have posted here, your doing fine.

I took a look at CC and noted that they post that only 4 specimens have been found, but that's a little dated information. The specimen you posted actually has one of the better EPUs you'll see for this date especially on a zinc coin. EPU for copper or zinc normally is pretty washed out and causes a great deal of squinting on my part to vet the coin and return it to the wild.
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 Posted 01/18/2015  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiffscoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all your feedback, it's very helpful. I really appreciate the time you took to respond to my post, I do have a question- does an error coin and a regular coin with the same date have the same or similar markers to identify by? Would a regular coin of that date have a few or all of the markers copper coins suggests looking for on the same dated error coin? Thank you again :)
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 Posted 01/18/2015  01:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tiffany - I'm no expert, but I believe the markers are specific to die/die sets used to coin. Many of the die sets for years where varieties exist are normal and have their own unique markers just as variety die/die sets have where doubling exists (DDO, DDR, RPM, etc.). The example that comes to mind are the 1922 Plain die sets (I believe that there were 4 where the D mintmark disappeared). Folks shop for their 1922 No D specimen generally by the die set. What can happen (and does) is that in various die states, some markers come and some markers go. If you note, many times CC has a MDS set of information regarding markers, but not for EDS or LDS for instance. Sometimes they have a couple die states for a variety. If you look at those, you'll see some of the more significant markers/witness marks migrate from die state-to-die state. But often they are different.

One of our experts will be along to confirm or refute some of the detail I'm posting. So hang in there and you'll get an answer.
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01/18/2015 01:53 am
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Here is an example of one Ken Potter posted. The size of the images you posted are fine. If it were a doubled die, you would know it. Here is the image:
1982-Cent-Small-Date-DDR--Please-Look--I'd-Love-Any-Feedback
Note the separation from the hubbing process? It makes the devices wider/taller. The division is rounded, not flat or pushed like you would see on machine damaged/doubling.
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 Posted 01/18/2015  11:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiffscoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you! After looking at a 1983 that I thought was a DDR I found a while back I see a big difference in the splitting, or lack there of :), I'd like to post pictures soon to confirm that the 1983 is indeed doubled so that I have an an example to go by of what genuine doubling looks like to the naked eye. Thanks again, I appreciate all of you guys responding, I don't look at coins to get rich, I'm really intrigued by the composition, structure and design of each one- sounds corny maybe but I love that every coin is just a little bit different than the next, even if they all display the same words, date and/or mint mark.
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Here is a Side by side of a machine doubled/Normal/doubled die devices. The doubled die is what the 1983P-1DR-001 "O" on one should look like.
1982-Cent-Small-Date-DDR--Please-Look--I'd-Love-Any-Feedback
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 Posted 01/18/2015  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiffscoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This side by side is awesome, thank you, I will go back and compare. Now, should I be able to see clear doubling - like the picture shows- from the naked eye or would it only be noticed through a magnifying glass or digital photo?
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 Posted 01/18/2015  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete2226 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop - you have probably addressed this question somewhere. Do you give permission for one of us to post your images in another forum? If so, do you have a preference for how credit is to be given?

The images are really very helpful. Even if you do not give that permission, I continue to appreciate your efforts!
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 Posted 01/18/2015  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiffscoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Pete, I'm definitely new the the group and find myself having a tough time navigating through the site since I'm still learning proper terms and trying to ask useful questions to help advance my understanding. Coop if you'd be kind enough to redirect me to where you may have previously addressed these questions, I would be more than happy to save you the time and effort of reposting them, thank you again, it's nice to have a place for a novice like me to ask questions without feeling like an ignoramus!
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 Posted 01/18/2015  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tiffany - in days of old where I moderated forums, the phrase we'd often use is this - a Search is a terrible thing to waste. Using the Search engine (4th from the right on the site toolbar) you can use the Advanced features to find topics, search dates, or perhaps specific members. You'll find that a topic has been discussed many times so read the topic title and dial in on what may be the right thread. Old or new, many very good threads with tons of useful information.

Good luck!!
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Thank you Rackster!
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Tiff: If you do a search here for a year you can bring up images. even typing in coop will bring you lots of images. I've made a few posts here. LOL
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