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How Far Back Can We Go? Third Edition! Ended At 1487 Waiting On 1486

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Nice. I just checked out the Wikipedia article on the Rooswijk.
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1732 RUSSIA ROUBLE of ANNA I:
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I would dearly love to replace this specimen with one that has the whole legend -on- the flan.
However large Russian silver coins pre-1800 are just impossible to find and to afford in better grade.
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That is one tiny legend!
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Great Britain -- 1731 farthing:

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1731 HAMBURG GERMANY 32 SCHILLING:
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How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Third-Edition!-Ended-At-1487-Waiting-On-1486

Size= 38mm; mintage 113 thousand. Krause # KM384 shows a similar but distinctly different design.
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oooh wow, nice 32 shilling.
I have a similar 8 shilling (see 1727 second edition), just after the 4 shilling of that year
I like it!!
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 Posted 11/01/2015  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the appreciative comments.
After this 1730, I am out until 1706, unless my <presently unlocatable> 1714 shows up.

1730 AUSTRIA OLMUTZ THALER of WOLFGANG:
How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Third-Edition!-Ended-At-1487-Waiting-On-1486
How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Third-Edition!-Ended-At-1487-Waiting-On-1486

Size= 42mm. These are new images.
Link to those shown in the 'second edition':
https://goccf.com/t/161525&whichpage=195
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THANK YOU for posting that 10 kr. piece, along with the translation of the *longest* string of undecipherable Latin abbreviations I have ever seen on a coin- !


This one is even worse!
Should I try to find the complete legend?
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Petrus, it really is worse. I noticed that too. Very typical for large Austrian coins of this era.
Might be interesting to learn what all the letter codes mean.
Much of the legend is probably religious in nature, judging from all the heavy symbology on that piece.
The decision regarding such research is totally up to you.
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That would be interesting to know the meaning of the legend.


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unless my <presently unlocatable> 1714 shows up.

I hope you find it!
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Here is the latin legend (I think). There is just a 'S' I can not place
WOLFFG:D:G:S:R:B:PRESB:CARDD:SCHRATTEMBACH.EP:OLO:DUX*
Wolffgangus, dei gratia, sacri romani Presbyterum, cardinalis Schrattembach, episcopus Olomucensis, dux*
S:R:I:PS:R:C:B:C:PROT:GER:S:C.R:M:CON.IN.ET.ACTVAL*1730
sacri romani imperii, princeps regiae capelae Bohemicae (et) comes, protector Germaniae, S Caesareae romanae majestatis consiliarius intimus et actualis

Sources:
- http://www.gcoins.net/en/catalog/legend/
- F.W.A. Schlickeysen & R. Pallmann: Erklärung der Abkürzungen auf Münzen der neueren Zeit, des Mittelalters und des Altertums, sowie münzartigen Zeichen

corrections welcome
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 Posted 11/01/2015  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it really necessary to squeeze that much onto one coin?
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After this 1730, I am out until 1706, unless my <presently unlocatable> 1714 shows up.
I am sure it will. If Murphy has any say, it will show up when this thread is at 1713 or 1712. If that happens, I will grant an exception.
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Lubeck -- 1729 8 schilling:

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