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Doubling N On This Morgan?

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Check out the N and E in "ONE" as in "ONE DOLLAR." The N and E look almost scratched out, but at the same time, I almost feel like I see a phantom N between the N and the E, rotated a bit counter-clockwise.

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That is certainly kinda what it looks like, eh? There's some doubling in the N. What's the rest of the coin? That might help us figure it out...
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On same angles, I almost get a sense that the N is doubling - almost halfway between the N and the E. Here are a few larger shots of the coin overall. I'm putting a few shots with different light angles.

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Slightly different light:

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I wasn't sure if the obverse helps:

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I didn't get much feedback on this, so hope you all won't mind me bumping this up a bit. Thanks again.
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Forgive me; I've been looking at this for a couple of days and forgot to mention the fact.

I think it's a Greaser which had a lucky postmint hit which formed the "doubling" on the N. It's hard to imagine a strikethrough or postmint event which would remove that much metal without smearing it somewhere. Further, more grease is apparent in "trust." It's pretty common with Morgans.
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I was wondering about the "trust" Dave, I noticed it was light, less struck, but wasn't sure. What do you mean by a lucky postmint hint which formed the doubling? Do you mean the grease stopped the letters from being struck correctly, and then the coin was damaged post-mint and the damage just happened to insinuate a second N even though there really isn't one?
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What do you mean by a lucky postmint hint which formed the doubling? Do you mean the grease stopped the letters from being struck correctly, and then the coin was damaged post-mint and the damage just happened to insinuate a second N even though there really isn't one?


Yeah, something like that. If we stipulate it's a Greaser, nothing in that process would cause the look of the N so the obvious conclusion is that it happened postmint. We're unaware of any known doubling of that type, so you have to figure what makes the most sense of the choices left.

Partial fills like this aren't uncommon. I think the strike literally happens too fast for the grease to "find its' own level" and evenly fill the area where it's caught.
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Oh that is interesting, thanks.
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Dave, let me post two more photos. Man if it doesn't still make me think there's something else going on. Look one more time at the E, and the are below it, and also to the left of it. That's not another diagonal and bottom right corner of a letter trying to peak out? Or is the light just playing tricks?

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