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 Posted 01/24/2015  12:50 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Medieval to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Complementing the "How far back can we go" threads here in the main coin forum, there is now a thread trying to go back in time from 1600 decade by decade.
Please if you have older coins, have a look and either follow the thread https://goccf.com/t/195985 or leave a note here from when onwards you would like to contribute,
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 Posted 01/25/2015  07:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've got a 1511... but they aren't there yet.
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Looking forward to see it in a weeks time.
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does a coin from AD 25 count?
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Yes, a coin from AD25 will count. But it will take quite a few days (actually months) to get to the 21-30 decade.
Looking forward to see your coin then.

Postscript:

You can post it already in https://goccf.com/t/193302&whichpage=1 though, year 25 is missing there.
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I have noticed that the 3 Sigismunds of Poland must have minted gobs of coins! LoL
Either that or they have survived in great numbers... My oldest dated coin is a
Sigismund, and maybe it's just me, but I see them all the time... Sig 1,2, and 3
coins, that is... I guess they must have circulated broadly up and down eastern Europe?
From the Baltics to ?
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Many points have been raised in the linked thread, so I will only mention one key point.
The vast majority of the members on this forum are from Anglo-Saxon countries and apart from Britain don't have any coinage of the relevant age. Dealers will import bulk lots of coinage which will offer good turnover and profit. Since the collector community in the Eastern European countries is only now growing, the prices of the coins from there are relatively low.
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I have noticed that the 3 Sigismunds of Poland must have minted gobs of coins! ... I guess they must have circulated broadly up and down eastern Europe?

The Commonwealth, which existed for over four centuries (if you count from the Union of Krewo), was the largest nation within Europe. Covering all or part of modern-day Poland, Ukraine, Kaliningrad, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, and extending into parts of Russia.

Then, when one considers the fact that Poland had a vassal state (The Duchy of Courland) that technically was part of Poland (Swedish invasion of Courland in 1655 sparked the Deluge, a part of the Northern Wars) and possessed colonies of its own in the Americas and Africa; and Poland occupied the Tsardom of Russia (namely Moscow) between 1610 and 1612 after the Seven Boyars of Russia elected Prince Władysław (the son of Zygmunt III Waza; and the future King of Poland as Władysław IV Waza) as Tsar of All Russia, however Władysław was never crowned due to objection of his father. That of course then brings about Poland's many military campaigns, a good deal of which were fought outside of Polish territory (and one would imagine the soldiers carried money with them)

Additionally you must take into account the Black Death, which ravaged European populations and must have had an effect on mintage figures (less people need less coinage), but Poland was largely spared, mainly due to the fact the ritualistic cult killing of cats was not practiced and the fact the Polish Kings sealed borders and quarantined all entrants, and Poland was thusly allowed to flourish. At its height, Poland had some 11 million citizens.

Thus ensuring the złoty would have circulated widely, throughout the Rzeczpospolita and into the surrounding nations, and having been minted in large numbers would ensure their survival to the modern era in sufficient quantities.
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Groszy: Now that's what I'm talking about!

Great history lesson! I genuinely learned something, and it fits perfectly with my observation.

Great stuff! Thank you!
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I am looking forward to posting my old Dutch stuff. I just picked up a 1474, 1478, and 1488 to go along with the double stuivers I already had from 1490, 96, and 99.
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Good to hear and looking forward to it. Will arrive at that time period in a few days.
Hope you have some older ones as well, it starts to get a little tricky before 1470.
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Thanks! Will check it out.
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Thanks! Will check it out.


Good to hear.
And for everyone who has older coinage, ie from before 1470 and is not sure about the minting period post it here and I will have a look (especially for English and Hungarian but French and Spanish ones as well).
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BUMP and a serious question:

Where are all those who posted in the original HFBCWG thread?
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Where are all those who posted in the original HFBCWG thread?

I for one am still here but I just do not feel the motivation I had for the original thread.
A few reasons: It takes a lot of time to take photos and post pictures of coins. I have not added many pre-1800 specimens since that first thread stalled. It just seems a bit tendentious to run a second and then a third iteration of the same thing, hoping it will attract new interest. There are numerous other threads in this forum seeking photos, that are floating in the archives; they too seem to have been forgotten. One of my favorites was the 'ships on coins' thread; whatever happened to that one?
For general show-and-tell it would be a lot easier just to have various 'post your coins from the XX century' threads, rather than one with lots of rules about linear progression and so forth. For example, I never did get to show a fair amount of nice stuff from the pre-1900 centuries, for various reasons such as not being able to be on-line some days or the thread moving too quickly. Also, it's simply a fact of collecting that this primarily USA-oriented forum is not going to get the continuous activity and enthusiasm that some of us would like to see due to the limited interest in the non-domestic subject matter.
So there is my take on it. Hope these comments are helpful.
Carry on.
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