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What Kind Of Flower On These Coins? Please Comment…

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I read the book “Odd and Curious… An Original Coin World Feature” 1963 by Mort Reed. The author said the flower emblem on the following coins is a poppy. This is really astonished to me. Poppy is always regarded as an evil plant to Chinese history. Is it a misunderstanding by the author? Do you know what kind of the flower is or you know the truth behind? Hope to get a feedback from you. Thank you. Henry

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(The coin pictures shown here are extracted from internet, not from my coins.)
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I would guess a chrysanthemum.
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...The author said the flower emblem on the following coins is a poppy. This is really astonished to me. Poppy is always regarded as an evil plant to Chinese history. Is it a misunderstanding by the author?

According to the authoritative Chinese Baidu Encyclopedia, the flower in the center of the "Guizhou car dollar" coin is the hibiscus (fu rong hua "花).

(Sorry but the software on this forum does not display certain Chinese characters.)

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Thank you your quick respons, Gary. Yes, it is fu rong hua ("花 in Chinese).

See the picture of this flower:

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Hibiscus must be right as a chrysanthemum would be the royal symbol of Japan, not something a chinese warlord would like to have on his coinage.

Furthermore the flower in the center is referred as a mint mark (or crest) by Eduard Kann (one of the greatest collectors and researchers of chinese silver coinage) as a mint mark of the Szechuan mint. He suggests, that the Kweichow auto dollars were also minted there as the province did not had its own mint.
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Another interesting fact is, that the car on this coin is a "Ford A convertible".
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Hibiscus must be right as a chrysanthemum would be the royal symbol of Japan, not something a chinese warlord would like to have on his coinage.


While it is indeed the royal symbol of Japan, I believe chrysanthemums are depicted on some Chinese coins.
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I think, that what some people refer to a sa "chrysanthemum" on chinese coins is actually a stylized rosette or flower, but not ment to present a chrysathemum. The "chrysanthemum" is a highly political symbol and nobody in a pre-puppet state China would like to have it on a chinese coin. On puppet state coinage this might happen, but this also why they call the Japanese controlled puppet-states this way.
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Agreed!
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Filip:
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He (Eduard Kann) suggests, that the Kweichow auto dollars were also minted there as the province did not had its own mint.


I have reservation about this opinion.

The following is a coin from Kansu, it is a 100 copper cash in Republic Year 15, also has a hibiscus at the centre. I don't think Szechuan mint could strike those coins for Kansu which is a province much far far away.
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In Chinese numismatic book, car dollar of Kweichow was minted its capital city Kweiyang. Could anyone tell how to get a book or any reading materials written by Eduard Kann?
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