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The following is an article excerpt from Coinweek

I am delighted to have the opportunity to write a new column for CoinWeek on my corner of the numismatic world - Pedigreed Coins. My view is going to be a bit different from many writers and articles because I am the guy on the other side of the table. I am a collector and have a collector's view of numismatics.

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Interesting perspective NB. I presume by 'pedigree collecting' you mean that you particularly seek out specific examples from a known source?

This is a bit different from in Britain where pedigree (we call it provenance here) is not a 'new' concept since I and many other collectors I know try to find out where a coin came from and which collections it belonged to previously. Though I think here it's considered (at least by some) as a 'bonus' rather than an aim to find one coin from such-and-such a collection or a specific hoard.

I suspect it is a bit easier here because few coins are slabbed and traditionally collectors have used 'tickets' (small paper discs where you can write a record of the coin, its type, where it was bought etc). Unlike in the US where the slab is the thing, here it's sometimes possible to obtain a coin with tickets stretching back many collections and years.

Example of a coin ticket (though not one of mine!):

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I spend quite a lot of time seeking out auction catalogues and dealer sales catalogues to help my research. Sadly in the earlier days (before the 1960s) it was an expensive process to print pictures and so only the rarest or most interesting coins were illustrated.

But in one case I managed to trace back one coin I had bought to an article in the British Numismatic Journal of 1918 and thence to a number of later collections.

It's an exciting time for me when I manage to find an earlier photograph of a coin I own in an article or sales catalogue and I can add to what I know about the history of the coin!

Not all of my coins are 'provenanced' in that some cannot be traced and others were recent finds. However I record all information I can and maybe one day someone will be as pleased to find a coin with one of my tickets as I am when I receive someone else's.

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Welcome and good fortune in obtaining new numismatic content on a periodic basis! One of my favorite stories about coins with a historic pedigree are those that once belonged to John Q. Adams. After running the country and that Amistad Affair, he went on a grand tour of Europe and the far east, collecting "foreign coins" circa 1840. He did not collect U.S. coins as just about no one did in those days. But he did have a cent jar, apparently in which large cents and Hard Times Tokens (hard times attributed to Jackson's fiscal policies no doubt) were saved and which remained in the Adam's estate after his death. I believe the coins passed through heirs until being donated to the Massachusetts Historical Society after the turn of the twentieth century. Well as museums need spending capital to do mundane things like fix leaky pipes, the Massachusetts Historical Society "de-accessioned" the bunch after sixty years. A catalog auction in 1971 of historic proportions, sold many of the cent jar coins and tokens, bundled together in multi-unit lots. Some were later parted out by secondary owners who were sure to pass along the presidential pedigree written proudly on the flip, to add some spice to fairly average "running change" of 1840. So for a typical HTT making fun of Jackson, which was once tossed in a jar by John Quincy Adams, how much does the information on the flip influence the value of the coin?
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Very nice. I look forward to reading more of your articles.
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