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 Posted 09/25/2007  5:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add redtailkarn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, my friend found this coin whilst metal detecting (in the UK). we have taken it to our local museum and the British museum and they have both told us that they do not know what it is. can you please help. thanks.

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 Posted 09/25/2007  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really have no idea but...maybe pre-roman bronze age subway token!?
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Just a guess on my part, it might be a coin from one of the 18-19th century kingdoms of India.
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 Posted 09/26/2007  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the BM doesn't know, I'm not sure we could be of much help...

I'd have guessed an Anglo-Saxon sceatta of the 600-800 AD period, but I'm not an expert in the series. I'd assume the BM could pick it if it were one of these.

It could be foreign, as echizento said. I think the top pic looks a bit like a Chinese/Japanese character, but official Chinese/Japanese coins look nothing like this...

Some context might help. Roughly where was it found?
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 Posted 09/26/2007  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add casey jones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would hazard a guess it is of Celtic origin ( Pre Roman invasion/occupation era ). I found something similar years ago whilst metal detecting, not in such good condition as yours, & after much research it turned out to be a Celtic coin...& a forgery at that being made of lead & coated in silver. I think that is where you should look for identification. Do bear in mind forgery's were being made way back then & are not uncommon finds. Yours however may turn out to be the real mccoy!

The larger coin looks like a 2005 20p. Good condition.
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 Posted 09/27/2007  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redtailkarn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as for where it was found was Hertfordshire near Hatfield, not sure what other info I can give. Thanks for your help so far.
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I'd have to say when I saw it I thought 'india' along with echizento, but I don't recall seeing that exact design, although I seem to recall seeing animal/plant designs on some early Paisa. Knowing the location of the find leaves me less sure of its origin or purpose.
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Go to your local museum, find out what Celtic tribe ruled that area just before the time of the Roman occupation & then see if the museum has a catalogue of the local Celtic coin finds from that period. A local archaeologist/historian is gonna be of more help to you in identifying the coin find. Also...folk at the local metal detecting club will be of great assistance.
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 Posted 09/28/2007  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redtailkarn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We have already taken it to our local museum. That was our first point of call, we have also taken it to our local metal detecting club and the british museum in london, with no joy. To be honest because It's not gold or silver and a single coin (if thats what it is, although I can't think of what else it might be). I don't really think they were that interested. I was hoping that specalist's coin collectors might be of more help.
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OK, working on the Celtic theory, and based on the find location, it's likely a coin of the Cantuvellauni or Trinovantes tribes. Looking through my copy of "Coins of England" by Spink, I can't spot anything that's a very close match, although the "ear of grain" motif is certainly common enough on gold and silver coins. I still can't tell if the thing on the other side is two crossed cornucopias, a horse or some other kind of animal, or something else.

Sorry I can't be of more help; Celtic British isn't an area I'm very familiar with.

Have you tried contacting Chris Rudd? They're one of the more famous specialist Celtic dealers in the UK - they advertise in the coin magazines here in Oz. They may not be interested if you don't plan on selling it to them, but the worst they can do is ignore your e-mail.
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Two metal detecting magazines that come out monthly...'The Searcher' & 'Treasure Hunter'...they have a finds section where you send in a pic of your coin. Try them. WH Smiths sells both. I'm positive it's from the Celtic period...but I'm no expert. Please let me know when you do finally i.d it as I'd be interested in knowing.

Just an after thought. You might even find it's a continental Celtic coin rather than a British one. I've actually found ancient Greek coins along side Roman in the same fields. Obviously they were bought over by the Romans. Your coin could have travelled the same.
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 Posted 09/29/2007  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redtailkarn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for your help so far. I was thinking of putting it in a detector magazine. Chris rudd is also a good idea, will try to get an email of to him thanks again.
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