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Paypal Scam...another Reason Not To Use Paypal

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 Posted 09/27/2007  10:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bigfella to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
All payment I take with paypal must be in AU$ as I refuse to pay exchange rate conversion fees at paypals uncompetitive rate. I had a customer pay me in US$ which was automatically coverted to AU$ by paypal at their rediculous rate. As the payment was made in US$ I refunded it which resulted in paypal converting AU$ back to US$ at their rediculous rate.

The net result was I had no money from my customer but paypal pocketsed over AU$40.00.

My advice is never use paypal....it is a scam.
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 Posted 09/27/2007  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that's insane. Was this on an ebay auction? If so, you should have that if someone wants to pay you in US dollars, they need to pay for the conversion fees that pay has.
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 Posted 09/27/2007  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That doesn't make any sense. If there's an exchange rate and the money is returned it should be a wash. Unless they have a different rate from US to AU than AU to US. But I would think that's illegal.
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 Posted 09/27/2007  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would contact PayPal. Maybe it was an honest mistake on their part.
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 Posted 09/28/2007  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigfella to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Contacted ebay...no refund...They quote rates from AU$ to US$ and US$ to AU$ and they are different. I have stated this before and I will state it again...paypal is a rip off and a scam. Unfortunately it is buyer driven and not seller driven which means sellers loose business without accepting it. Unfortunately most buyers are oblivious of the problems sellers have.
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 Posted 09/28/2007  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "Money Changers" have Biblical origins ... bad then, worse now! I wouldn't use it for international transactions. Sorry you got shafted Big.
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 Posted 09/28/2007  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scottishmoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As an incentive to buyers to NOT use paypal I give a 4% discount if they pay by cash cheque or MO. I have not yet had problems with paypal, but I care to avoid problems and the best cure is abstinence from paypal.
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 Posted 09/28/2007  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We've used PayPal it for years, following the rules with the correct settings, without issue.

All the tools you need to avoid this problem are easily available to you. Just set, "Block payments sent to me in a currency I do not hold" to "no" or "ask me". The choice has been there for years. This problem never would've happened.

Also, if the refund is within 24 hours the same rate is used.

They also tell you up front that there is a 2.5% spread that they keep. It's no secret.

PayPal didn't "scam" you, you "scammed" yourself.
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 Posted 09/28/2007  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
My advice is never use paypal....it is a scam.


Then why in the world do you use it?
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 Posted 10/01/2007  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collect4fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby

Where in Paypal do you make these settings? I know it is probably under a heading - Tools or Settings, I am just to lazy to go look.
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 Posted 10/04/2007  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have to log in then go here.
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 Posted 10/04/2007  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collect4fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bobby. Mine was already set to "Ask Me", must be the default setting as I have never set these before.
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