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Edited by PawnS
02/19/2015 10:57 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The Heritage auction ended the 17th - he doesn't have it in hand, and is using cropped versions of their photos. Wow. Just, Wow.
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United States
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Cleanse with fire.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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I've already spoken with a detective in Louisville. Blatant lies in the listing.
Edited by PawnS
02/20/2015 10:01 am
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United States
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There's no legal definition to those terms, in a hobby where all of those who have legal muscle wish for those terms to remain legally undefined. The buyer extenuates himself sufficiently simply by saying "my opinion."
Gonna take something else to make these people go away. Making this stick as fraud would require setting a precedent reversing previous opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
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If this was 1 year ago, he would be NARU'd immediately by ebay. Unfortunately, ebay did away with Judith, the ccw and ebay's Trust and Safety board. ebay no longer cares. |
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If ebay doesn't care, it is even more caveat emptor. Knowing the seller's reputation is a partial defense. |
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United States
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It's too bad that someone will grab this, send it in for certification and get the same (details) bad news. Or someone will put it in an album and be happy. Hopefully the later will happen.
Edited by oih82w8
02/20/2015 08:04 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Has the buyer even technically taken ownership of these yet? There is a good chance they won't have these coins in hand when the auction ends. Heritage can take awhile.
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No, he doesn't have the coins yet. Heritage usually takes 10 days or so.
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At first I was thinking why people wouldn't question the pictures. Then I say this: Quote:Coin was previously certified. Is now raw as was part of my Indian Head cent collection. What an excuse... |
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Oh, this guy is completely defiant. He doesn't deny what he's doing, he just says he disagrees with the TPG. He's put that into auction copy. Why not? It plays to TPG distrust and ebay could not care less, nor does PCGS. |
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Though he states he does not accept returns this coin is still covered by the ebay return policy because when the buyer gets this coin and finds out it has been cleaned and not the "gem" he thought at least he still could send it back. |
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Calling the 1915-S Barber quarter "GEM" it sort of falls in line with the old freak shows you used to could see at the circus. P. T. Barnum was right "There's a sucker born every minute." Problem is this ebay seller KNOWS what he is doing is FRAUD. There's no way I or Ssuper Dave or anyone else on this forum whose looked at thousands of coins would ever grade that coin GEM. This is what I find so disgusting about ebay which only cares about lining its pockets and paying Donahue and company big bonuses. ebay CARES NOTHING ABOUT INTEGRITY. Truly ebay has become a cavet empator venue. It is getting to the point that it is hard for me (and I'm sure I'm not alone) to due a category search by series or date on a coin because you see so many obvious off the wall grades like this one or worse fakes. Now granted I could see an 11 year old boy whose never collected coins suddenly inherit a collection and he might call it GEM. But for someone who has the knowledge and knows better (which you darn well do if you buy at Heritage auctions). . . it might meet a court's definition of fraud but saying he disagrees with the TPG is sort of like the politician who said "We'll I'm not a crook!" |
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Posted 02/19/2015 11:09 pm
