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1853 Large Cent

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This is not mine... yet.

I sold a few coins recently in order to fund a new large cent or two. At my price point, this is about the best looking coin I can find anywhere online. What do you think of it?


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Gorgeous. Pick it up if you can afford it.
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K.

It's been sitting on the same website forever. I'll probably get it in the next week or so if it's still there.

NGC says it's MS62.
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That's very nice
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This is N-25 die state (b) (R1) from what I can tell from the photos. Grellman mentions that this was a horde coin with "hundreds" of mint state examples available. I would probably put this at EAC 55. The strike is flat at the bottom hair curls and corresponding parts of the wreath on the reverse. Carbon/toning spots detract in the obverse fields. I think cracking this coin out of the slab would be a mistake. Noyes also has this listed as a horde coin with no condition census due to the number of high grade examples.
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Thank you EF.

I was wondering what the deal was with the top of the wreath and the shoulder.

I'm sure it's not an uncommon coin. My reasoning is that I could either have a less common coin in lower grade, or this. I'd rather have this

The only thing I disagree with you on is the detraction for the dark toning spots. To me they look like Champagne bubbles.
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Definitely an N-25, easy to tell by the horizontal bar in the denticles above star 1. Nice coin!
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It's tough to tell from the photograph just really what those spots are, if they are toning spots, probably less of a detraction than if they were carbon spots, but I'm not sure this coin would get above a 58 no matter how you look at it. But when buying online I always grade conservatively so that I can be pleasantly surprised if its better than expected.
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nice looking coin. if price is right go get it.
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I like it.
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I'm at work on my phone so I punted on the attribution but it does look like a great coin.
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It's not only a lovely coin but proof of the deepest, hardest to strike spots on an IHC. One can learn about grading the series from it.
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I agree with the AU55...very nice.
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I'm seeing strike weakness. I think it's MS but not having the coin in hand, I'm not sure if it's original.
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Very nice coin: at first glance it has luster what you might expect on an MS-63 but with the flatness on the bottom curls and the few spots in the Left obverse field I see where they got the MS-62.
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The weak hair and corresponding weak leaves on the reverse are a very "thick" point on the design, low in both dies. In this case, looking at the top stars and bottom of the reverse I can almost imagine the dies slightly out of parallel and striking the obverse-top end slightly more strongly than the date end. Only a few thousandths of an inch would do it.

You see a lot of this slight misalignment in Large Cents. It's my theory that the Mint, in producing the coin they minted in numbers far larger than any other, allowed larger production tolerances in the interest of efficiency. It may be the only way they were able to achieve the production quota in that era.
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