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My Latest Addition From Monaco

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 Posted 09/30/2007  11:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Just received this in the mail today so I thought I would share it around.

The coins is for Grace Kelly (Princess Grace) of Monaco.

Hope you all enjoy it as much as I did.

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/...aceKelly.jpg
Edited by humpybong
09/30/2007 11:31 pm
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 Posted 10/05/2007  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry but I don't think that is a coin. Monaco did issue a €2 coin this year which commemorates Grace who died 25 years ago. This one looks similar, but it is a medal ...

Here is a picture of the actual coin:
http://www.muenzblog.de/bilder/mona...lly-2007.jpg
Here is some info from the EU Official Journal:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ...00060006.pdf

Christian
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 Posted 10/05/2007  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin or medal Barry
Thanks for sharing
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 Posted 10/05/2007  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it looks just the same as the 2 EUR coin you have shown there chrisild?
what makes you think it's a medal?
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10/05/2007 5:21 pm
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 Posted 10/05/2007  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onejinx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a coin to me
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 Posted 10/05/2007  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
what makes you think it's a medal?

To me it looks like the Grace medals that are offered on ebay ...

* The portrait of Grace looks different.
* On actual euro coins, the stars are arranged differently.
* I cannot see the "R.B.BARON" (name of the artist who designed the 1982 portrait which was also used for this year's coin).

Would really help to see a picture of the other side. If there is a "2" followed by the word EURO, it should be a coin. Most of the €2 lookalike medals, however, have a big E instead of the currency name.

The actual €2 Grace commem is quite expensive, with prices in the three digit range. So I can well understand why some collectors would not buy it, or maybe get a medal as a souvenir instead ...

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 Posted 10/05/2007  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RenaL to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info, I didn't know there are 2 Euro look-alikes out there.

Maybe Bm will show us the other side.
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 Posted 10/09/2007  08:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rosso_rubino to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The actual problem w/ this coin is the price, currently in Italy it is at 280 euro for a 2 euro coin, and that is incredible.
Please give back us the old king
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 Posted 10/09/2007  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Will try and get a picture for you tonight.

Here is what the coin is:

This is the unofficial TRIAL release of the commemorative 2 euro coin from MONACO 2007!
Issue limited to 2500 copies worldwide.
The coin bears Princess Grace Kelly to commemorate the 25th anniversary of her sudden death caused by a carcrash september 13th, 1982.
This is a pattern coin only and not legal money
Coin comes in protective capsule!
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 Posted 10/11/2007  06:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guess your piece looks like this one then:
http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/b0/b1/ca48_1.jpg

Most ebay vendors who offer this medal do not even depict the reverse in their auctions, and I think they know why. The "problem" with Monaco is that, in the franc years, the country actually had such trial coins (with the word "essai" on them). Those were made at the French mint, like the actual coins, and issued/sold by the Principality of Monaco.

This piece, however -- don't ask me who had it made, but it is pretty much in the same category as the British or Swiss euro "patterns". And just like those, the Grace medals may well be collectible of course. It's just that various "Grace pattern" vendors use item descriptions that in my opinion are (close to being) misleading ...

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 Posted 10/11/2007  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Here is the otherside of this coin. I would call it a fantasy coin not a medal.


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 Posted 10/11/2007  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It depends on what company actually made that "trial". If it is from an official mint, then yes it will be a trial coin but otherwise it's as good as medals.
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 Posted 10/11/2007  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
None of these "trial" pieces is an official issue. Here is a collector who apparently has quite a few of them, from places all over the world: http://ret001qm.eresmas.net/eu-ingle.htm

He also has some other images that are quite interesting: Monaco issued the €2 Grace commem this year, and we also find Grace "test" pieces. San Marino just issued a €2 Garibaldi commem, and now you can also buy these medals:
http://ret001qm.eresmas.net/images/...ibaldi-a.jpg
http://ret001qm.eresmas.net/images/...ibaldi-r.jpg
Oh, and later this month the Vatican comes with a €2 piece for the Pope's 80th birthday. And what do we find? "Pattern" pieces with the same theme.
http://ret001qm.eresmas.net/images/...attern-a.jpg
http://ret001qm.eresmas.net/images/...attern-r.jpg

Honni soit qui mal y pense ... As I wrote before, nothing wrong with collecting them - what I find problematic is that some vendors more or less subtly convey the impression that such pieces are government endorsed or in any other way official.

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 Posted 10/11/2007  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Can't agree with you more Christian.

I new that this was not a real issue, just like it so I purchased it.

That is what collecting is about.
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 Posted 10/12/2007  03:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Angielczyk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I Thought you might like to see a picture of a medal issued by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) to Grace Kelly in 1976.

The reverse side of the medal with the inscription "For Friends of Young People" in both English and French recalled Princess Grace's honorary presidency of the World Association of Young Peoples Friends, an Organization founded in Monaco in 1963.

The medal was designed by the Italian Artist Pietro Giampaoli who also designed Italy's first 500 lira coin in 1958.



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