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David Sear is an expert on ancient coins. He is written many books on Roman, Greek, and Byzantine coins and he offers a certification service. He is his website and information on how to submit a coin for certification. http://davidrsear.com/ |
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United Kingdom
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I can have it looked at for you, but if it was offered to me I wouldn't buy it. Do with that info what you will.  You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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@MetDet71 Could you elaborate? Thanks, As to http://davidrsear.com/ THe website is very fishy. No contact info. The site is cheaply made. Afraid that that is some sort of scam. Sorry. Do not mean to offend anyone. I feel if the coin is sent there will never come back! I would rather use NGC for that matter. |
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Use NGC if you want to, David Sear is an established authority and 100% reliable. As ski said, he is an author of several books and is absolutely an authority on ancient coins. I would use him without hesitation. In fact, I would use him in preference to NGC.
Edit: If there were contact information,he would be swamped with millions of coin collectors asking his opinion.
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03/01/2015 6:33 pm
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Yes I can elaborate.
Firstly, not enough info... seller, price, etc..
Secondly, I presume you don't have a huge collection of ancient coins so posting a goldie is suspicious to me on a variety of levels.
thirdly, there is a die match for this coin, all is needed is a bit of searching away from the common, boring sites.
Lastly, I have failed to buy any genuine Gold of the period Roman coins for the past 6 years and this speaks volumes.
If you want a gold Roman coin then buy one from a recommended metal detectorist that has one registered and fully recorded that has been dug up in the presence of others.
You will never soar like an eagle if you hang around with turkeys.....
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I tend to agree with MetDet on buying ancient gold. If I could afford to buy ancient gold I would only buy from a well know and established auction house or dealer. With that being said they have made mistakes and have sold fakes, A very recent auction pulled a large number of coins off the block prior to the sale when they leaned that where fakes. IMO buying ancient Roman or Greek gold coins is very risky and should be avoided unless as a buyer you are expert enough to feel confident that the coin is real.
As to David Sears website, that is his official site. You should feel confident that if you send a coin to him you will get in back with a certification if it's genuine that will be accepted by all.
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I see. Thank you a lot guys for your help. I really appreciate your insights on this matter. Would welcome any new opinions on this one. Meanwhile I founds Dave's email will try to give him a shut out.
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03/01/2015 7:27 pm
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I don't think you are going to get an answer here. This is a very rare coin and there is not enough information to say how much it would go for in the market place today. We don't know when these coins were sold. If it came up for auction and there were more than one bidder then it could go really high.
If the coin has any provenance, that would add to the value. The condition when seen in hand, may be different from the photos. Is the coin legal? Was the find reported to the relevant authority?
You need to find an expert in the first place and have it authenticated. I wouldn't part with a penny until that was done (personally speaking).
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@pishpash
Thank you. What if the coin has not been registered in the country it was found in?
As I understand with this type of coin is like with an expensive piece of art/drawing which need a certificate with its history. Am I correct?
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We ALL hope to be the one to find the original "Mona Lisa" at our local "Garage Sale", me as much as most, but we never do, because it isn't there - It is in the Louvre in Paris. It is the same with (most) gold coins, I am afraid. If some reputable collector 'dug up' a $3,500 - $10,000 coin he would have had it checked out for himself, as you would and as I would. If he has no Certificate, (to me), the reason is because it doesn't warrant one and 'erring' on the side of caution here would be most prudent. (Caveat Emptor)  Edited by Topcat7
03/05/2015 4:10 pm
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Different countries have different rules. I don't know where this one was found. In some countries it is illegal to take them out of the country.
I can only speak for the UK. If the coin was found here, an honest metal detector would report the find to "PAS" Portable antiquities scheme. There is would be recorded, where it was found and when. And there would be a reference number so you could check back and get the details in the future.
If the coin was found in a country where the government would have confiscated the coin, or if it has been smuggled out of the country in order to sell it, and if knowing this you still bought it, you would be complicit in the crime.
If the seller is reluctant to have the coin authenticated, that is a big bright red flag.
If the coin was "found" in one of the countries famous for fakes, another red flag.
If you think that you can get this for a knock down price - huge massive red flag with spangles on.
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I can only support all of the cautious opinions that have been expressed.
The distillation I get out of this discussion is that the coin should be sent to David Sear, before any sale is considered.It would be in the seller's interest to have the coin authenticated.
Price to be negotiated after authentication, if that proves to be so.
If that turns out to be the case the seller may feel free to offer it at an auction of the highest international reputation.
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@sel_69l
Thank you for your reply. I got really sad with all the remarks on the legality of taking the coin out of the country without the proper documentation. It looks like it's a very huge deal.
But I also think if the coin can be authenticated by David, I should be ok.
The country where the coin is coming from is really dangerous to show to authorities nowadays. For that sum one can get robbed easily or even worse.
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Would you be inclined to say what country it is coming from? If it's coming from Eastern Europe, there is a very high chance that it's not real. As far as I know most if not all Middle Eastern countries it is illegal to ship coins or artifacts out of those countries.
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