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 Posted 03/02/2015  12:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add michael9179 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
....just kidding... I will assume I am not rich, well, maybe $20 rich or something.

I purchased some bulk of indian head pennnies, and found a 1865 Indian Head cent, pretty poor condition, clean but very worn, but the reverse seems to be definitely rotated versus the obverse. I am having technical trouble with getting a clean reliable picture taken, so I don't have an image to include, but I am just interested in knowing what this might be worth as an error. It's not 90 degrees or anything, probably more like a 10 or 15 degree rotational difference between the sides. but, the rotation is obvious as I compared the coin to many of my other Indian Head cents.

So, I would love to get an idea of what it might be worth. Also, as I am pretty new to numismatics, any suggestions on how I would officially get the coin examined/graded/valued?.....assuming that is even worth doing.

also, if anyone wants to buy it, I will sell it for....i don't know...... a million dollars (ha!, but you never know...).

thanks so much and happy hunting,
Michael
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 Posted 03/02/2015  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eagle_eye_18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your rotation, 10-15 degrees, is too small and will not command an extra premium.
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 Posted 03/02/2015  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Coin Community, Michael. For someone who doesn't know much about this yet, you've certainly provided the right information to get you an appropriate answer.

Die rotation is common-enough across all issues that generally rotations over 90 degrees are required to add much value. You would get additional interest in it but not a bunch of extra sales price.

And before anyone says anything, yes, he's a new member who made a sales offer. We can take a joke.
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 Posted 03/02/2015  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add michael9179 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks guys, that all makes sense. Again, I am learning the coin collecting art from scratch, so I
didn't have any idea what I have my hands on. ..... and I promise, no more sales offers! I can imagine
that sales offers on a board like this are probably frowned-upon! thanks again
Michael
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 Posted 03/02/2015  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysilveryears to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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sales offers on a board like this are probably frowned-upon

What is frowned upon are those who crash in hoping to CA$H in. ;>)

It's quite permissible to sell here.
Stick around long enough to learn the rules and the protocol; you'll have some fun, get an education and maybe make some money too.
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Yeah, the reason we restrict selling by new members is that there's so much deception out there. We nuke a few trolls a week; you never see them.
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out of curiosity does a rotation add a decent premium at greater than 90 degree's? its not really anything ive ever even thought to look for.

by decent I mean like an otherwise 2 dollar coin would become worth $200 as an example.
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Ben89, the good ones would be more like $2 to $50. Grade and rarity for that specific date - if known - would have a bearing.
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 Posted 03/02/2015  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Michael ... Hope you enjoy and grow with the CCF.


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Your rotation, 10-15 degrees, is too small and will not command an extra premium.


IMHO, this is a generally true statement. That said, I have seen dealers ask and receive a modest premium for major rotations of 90-180 degrees. These do make for interesting conversation among collectors who often like to own a representative example of this error. Particular dates in certain series can often be found without paying a premium though. The 1864 Two Cent Pieces and Indian cents of that year come to mind.

Happy hunting!
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03/02/2015 5:18 pm
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Welcome Michael. We still want to see the pics. This the stuff we live for.
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