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I have checked the features for this coin against a listing of genuine versus counterfeit features, and it seems OK. Haven't checked magnetic properties yet, but the flaws on the coin bother me. There are lines that look like strike errors on both sides which makes me think this is a fake. If so I would like to know and will destroy the coin as far too many of these around without me joining in!   |
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Welcome to Coin Community, scotcoin, and thank you for doing your due diligence first.  It's almost certainly counterfeit in my opinion. The denticles are far too ill-formed for the typical Trade dollar precision; they appear as if from the previous century's technique. The cracks and raised dots are also an ill omen. With that said, I am inclined to think it a contemporary forgery, and an interesting specimen. They are worth preserving to serve as examples for later identification, and Coin Community has a member whose specialty is assembling these counterfeits for a public database. I'm going to ensure he sees this thread to find if it's a design he's aware of. |
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United States
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Welcome to the CCF!
I'm inclined to agree with SSuperDave. What's the weight in grams?
If the verdict is that of being counterfeit, please don't destroy it. These make great, educational pieces to share with other collectors. Perhaps, it could find its way into the Black Cabinet?
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Thank you Dave. I have been trying to think where it came from and best guess is Shanghai in the 1980s. If your colleague wants it for your record of counterfeit coins let me know and if postage from the UK is reasonable I'll send it to you.
I have a couple of other coins which I was going to post but just found out that the silver M THERESIA D G BURG CO TYR 1780 X ARCHID AVST DUX is worth its silver content only - $15 or so and over 800 million struck and still being struck today! But it would be nice if the other coin - Netherlands - Holland AR Dukaton / Silver Rider - was real! Is that best posted here or should I post it on the UK forum.
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I've already emailed Steve to have a look. Have you completely attributed your Maria Theresa, scotcoin? Yes, a bazillion have been struck in the last 3 centuries but they can be roughly identified by year and mint and some have great value.
Try the Dukaton in the World Coin Forum; we can alter the location if need be.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Dave, Thanks. Maybe I dismissed the Maria Theresia Taler a bit too quickly based on this websites valuation http://www.coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq...in_coin=1374That said, I have checked several sites but none tell me how to identify the mint. Any idea where to look or should I go to the world coin site? |
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New Member
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Thanks Dave,
Sorry, rude of me. Found the website about 30 mins ago and ploughing through it. At least I now know it was the Guenzburg mint.
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If you're sure of Guenzberg you may have something there. Those were contemporary, as that Mint last struck coins in 1805.
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