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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Bought as Koinon Macedon, I have been trying to narrow down the search for this coin. I believe that Koinin just means Provence of.... I have been told that it might be of the time of Diadumenian or Severus Alexander. I can't read the legend, can anyone help?  
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Sorry I can't help much with the ID right now, but... Quote: I believe that Koinin just means Provence of.... "Koinon" means "public, of the people of". When used of a geographic area, "koinonia" takes on the meaning of "association" or "community". Using words like "federation" or "commonwealth" might be tempting, but would be way too strong a translation. The Romans actively discouraged cities or local communities within the Empire from banding together into any form of League or Confederation, lest people within such a League might feel greater loyalty to the League than to the Empire as a whole. The Romans certainly went to great lengths to ensure provincial governors never had the power to issue their own coinage or to otherwise act like mini-emperors within their province, lest they actually attempt to take their whole province and secede. And history shows that this policy worked; when secessionist movements did eventually arise within the Empire, it was not instigated at the gubernatorial or provincial level. The only regions it was tolerated to any extent was in places where the cities were small and/or ethnically diverse, and even this was only tolerated for specific purposes, such as holding Games or issuing common coinage.
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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Thank you Sap, that is very useful info.
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 United States
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Nice coin. It's a Koinon of Macedonia 2nd Neokorus time of Elagabalus. AMNG 474.
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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WOW thanks echizento, I have been struggling with this coin for ages. I have no idea what it means, but I will put it on the label :)
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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on the reverse is written : koinon makedonoon b ne : koinon of the macedonians , B = second ne(okoros). A neokoros is a kind of guardian of the temple or a priestly officer. Certain cities had built a temple to the emperor or had etablished a cult of the menbers of the imperial family.To such families is referred as neokoros.The title appears from the beginning of the second century.albert
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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Thank you Albert, that is excellent. Learned something else today.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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me to, I'm somewhat embarrased to admit I thought that "Koinon of Macedon" was a guy.
lol!
nice coin pish!
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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very interesting, nice coin!
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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Thanks guys, and thanks for the link echizento.
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Pillar of the Community
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Well, I read the post and started to work on the legend. I didn't do too well, but after a time I thought that I might have something.
THEN I read the 'replies'. (I should have done that first. - Well, I did get some letters right.)
Great find, PishPash.
I am with you,Chrsmat71. I would have thought that 'Koinon' was a name or a Title.
Ron, you constantly amaze with not only with your knowledge, but where to find the supporting detail, and in which 'reference' book. Your database must be huge.
Sap, Antwerpen - please keep that stuff coming. To those of us who do not have this information, those comments are invaluable information that contributes to our learning curve. Thank-you.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I thought Koinon was a denomination of currency, haha.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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I was still thinking about your coin , and especially the second neokoros .This is what I have found . The name Koinos Mak . is in use since Domitianus. The coin Alexander with on reverse his horse Bucephalus since Elagabalus. The title Neokoros appears the first time under Macrinus (just before Elag.).It implicated the have a cult for the emperor and to arganise games : the agon ieros.This was done in Beroia.From Elagabalus there was a second imperial cult untl the dead and the damnatio memoriae of Elag (damnation of memory).Severus Alexander had still a few coins with sec.neo.,but then it ended to start again with Gordianus III and Philippus .albert
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Pillar of the Community
 United Kingdom
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Albert that is most interesting, thank you for taking the trouble to write it up. I will keep that information with the label.
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Pillar of the Community
Belgium
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you know , coins give many pleasure : 1:you have to find a nice ,interesting piece you like at a good price 2:at auction, you have to bid and hope to buy it as cheep as possible 3:once you have it , you must find the right place to put it in your collection 4: you have to make a file of your coin , witch describe your coin ,then explains it .you have to date it as exactly as possible . 5.all this done , you have to make time to look and enjoy your collection. 6.looking around for coins, you find some websites where you can find some help you help also , for yourself (your learning )and for the other collector by finding some information , and for me as old man (68) to practise my English .Whan I was at school before the university , I had 2 hours of English lesson during two schoolyears , in total about 140 hours . so , like you see , coin collecting = pleasure . albert
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