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 Posted 10/16/2007  9:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coindude411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Poll Question
Do you think that the Lincoln Penny prices are going to skyrocket in 2009?

Results

Yes 28% 22 Votes
No 21% 17 Votes
Possibly 25% 20 Votes
Not skyrocket but definitely go up 26% 21 Votes

Poll Status: Locked
Total Votes: 80 Counted
Last Vote: 01/10/2008 6:31 pm
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10/17/2007 2:18 pm
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 Posted 10/16/2007  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errorcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Before then, it's called speculation.

Lincoln Cent errors rock. They should see a nice price increase as well.

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Why should Lincoln cents prior to 2009 change value after 2009? The mintages will remain the same with certain years and mintmarks having more value than the average cent. I don't see a change in design having any influence on previous issues. For example, issuance of Sac dollars had no effect on Ike dollars. A cent is a cent is a cent even if they are no longer minted. Maybe two or three hundred years down the road but I am reminded of many very old or ancient coins which still have little or no value above bullion because so many were minted.

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 Posted 10/16/2007  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add blcoinnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
" Why should Lincoln cents prior to 2009 change value after 2009?"

Because,since 2009 is the 100th anniversary of the Lincoln Cent and the mint
is redesigning the coin that year,it will draw attention from non collectors
(for various reasons)and novices who will pay more attention to the Lincoln series.They will strive to purchase Lincolns,increasing demand and causing
the price to rise.
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 Posted 10/17/2007  02:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I voted possibly ,,

Its possible that the Keys and semi keys could see slightly better than normal increases along with the Higher grades of some of the more common coins in the series (I have a list of the dates and grades that I expect to take a few jumps and am actively aquiring those coins).

There are two sides to the supply and demand equation,, as long as the supply is large enough to sustain the demand then those prices will remain stable ,, it is only when demand exceeds supply that the prices increase ,, for the most part the most common of the circulated Lincoln cents are readily available and supply will or should not be a problem this will limit the increases to the Higher grades, keys and semi keys .

as with most things the prices will rise and then as the fervor dies down they will slip a bit ,but certian coins will still maintain a generous increase .

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 Posted 10/17/2007  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justjimrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I said no primarilly because of the choice of the word "skyrocket". If the question had been posed as "will the price increase" I would have said possibly. I agree with Metalman that the keys will probably see some price increase. There will definitely be some new collectors because of the new designs but I would not think there would be enough of an impact on the supply of Lincolns to cause a dramatic shift in prices. If I am wrong though, I have hundreds of pounds of cents to sell.

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 Posted 10/17/2007  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cent are already going up!
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 Posted 10/17/2007  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I said YES, although I'm not sure about "skyrocket", but prices will rise. I've been having a difficult time finding some higher grade Lincolns right now. On ebay and Heratige the prices are becoming insane. Mintage figures don't mean a whole lot, look at the 1909P (no VDB) and the 1931, 1931D, 1932 and 1933 in BU. They are a serious pain to find! The mintage of the 1909P was pretty high, but not many people hoarded them back then....it was all about the VDB for speculators. I found tons and tons of 09VDB's in BU, it was easy. However, the 1909P has proven quite difficult to find in a quality BU coin.

As a huge Lincoln fan, I am very excited about 2009 and the attention it will bring to the hobby. As was said before, the casual collectors and speculators will come out and drive prices up just because it's in the news.
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 Posted 10/17/2007  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I voted no to skyrocket, but I do believe they will show gains. Things have not changed to cause a run on them which would be the catalyst for a huge increase in price. However, I agree that there will be much more attention paid to them causing growth. Also, people like myself are already buying keys, semi keys and early cents in anticipation of this growth and this is why you are seeing upward movement, now.
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 Posted 10/17/2007  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add C.F.R. to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look at Washington quarter prices...before and after the State Quarter program. A great example of new collectors hitting the market. Same thing will happen with Lincolns.

The difference will be, the quarter program lasted 10 years, Lincolns will not.
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 Posted 10/17/2007  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shatsi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a good point CFR. While certain dates in the lincoln series might rise in value I don't think it'll have the same effect as the State Quarter program. At the moment everyone's trying to buy them anticipating a price increase and that alone is driving the price up.
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 Posted 10/17/2007  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
C'mon, people. I hope you don't think that the change of the Lincoln Cent design is somehow going to change the numbers of trillions of cents minted from 1909 through 2008. Sure, there's gonna be a psychological factor with a design change, but that isn't gonna suddenly make, say, a 1951D Lincoln (mintage 625 million) any less common. It MIGHT make a key Lincoln 1909 S-VDB or a 1931S or an error temporarily increase in value but only because the design change has brought a little more attention to them. And sure, added attention to Lincoln cents (or any other coin) due to the design change will bring in more potential collectors and hence more demand on the less common and rare Lincoln cents, but a skyrocket rise for the common Lincolns? Puhleezz. Supply (307 billion) and demand of a 1937 Lincoln wheatie cent will still remain the same as will most of the other Lincoln cents. Anyone who buys, say, a 1967 Lincoln Cent (3 billion mintage) for an additional premium merely because the same series design is no longer being minted will likely be willing to buy (at a discount) that bridge I still have for sale.
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 Posted 10/17/2007  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
C'mon, people. I hope you don't think that the change of the Lincoln Cent design is somehow going to change the numbers of trillions of cents minted from 1909 through 2008. Sure, there's gonna be a psychological factor with a design change, but that isn't gonna suddenly make, say, a 1951D Lincoln (mintage 625 million) any less common.

As noted there have been trillions of cents minted. HOWEVER, no where near that amount remains. Try to rememeber the massive amount being melted by Copper idiots. How many thown into lakes, rivers, streams, wishing wells. How many buried in a yard somewhere now lost forever (my wife did that over 50 years ago). How many have been crushed on RR tracks, pressed to make a bent elongated thing, shot at with guns, drilled out for a ring, etc., etc., etc.
Also, note the growth rate of our country. Now over 300,000,000 people. Include some from other countries and you could have an awful lot of new coin collectors and the easiest coin for anyone to collect is ................
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 Posted 10/17/2007  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I voted no, but they may go up a little. In the late 80's I purchased a bag of wheaties for about 80 bucks, which is only about
1 1/2 cents apiece. That was a full 30 years after their mintage ceased.

I could see the 1909's going up a little. I figure someone will make little plastic holders with a space for a 1909 and a 2009. But I don't think anything drastic will happen.

I'm not too familiar with the design change. Will it be permanent, and will it affects both sides of the coin? That would affect price increases too.

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 Posted 10/18/2007  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I voted yes.

I think there will be some gain, but nothing dramatic.

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 Posted 10/18/2007  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CommandD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Prices are already going up, but I assume that is dealers stocking up in preperation for the public's new found desire to collect pennies. By the way, I'm betting we go to steel for the 2009 pennies.
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