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1997 LMC Clash, Lamination Plus

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Had this one for awhile (found in a roll); the clash was obvious, but upon closer exam, I noticed what I think to be a lamination issue. It appears to be a retained peel between the 9th and 10th column (sort of looks like a Cud too). Additionally, east of the 12th column there appears to be some doubling or a partial additional column. I have not run across this before, any ideas?

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1997-LMC-Clash,-Lamination-Plus
1997-LMC-Clash,-Lamination-Plus
1997-LMC-Clash,-Lamination-Plus
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 Posted 03/10/2015  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zincs don't have laminations. Probably just part of the clash. Very very nice find though!!
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 Posted 03/10/2015  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jprine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Didn't know that about zincs, makes sense though!
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J - can't tell from the pics, but is this your coin?

http://www.maddieclashes.com/cclti-1c-1997-01/
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 Posted 03/10/2015  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rackster, I dont think it is becasue it doesn't have the prominent clashing on the revese like the coin posted here...
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Hi Child - you are probably right. I was actually a little disappointed with the pictures at MADDIE for the specimen I was checking for alignment. I'm hoping with the coin in hand J could do the best investigation.

Still a cool coin - lots going on!!
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Taking a close look at tdc-1c-1997-01, I do not think it is a match. The reverse looks more rotated to me, however, this is my first attempt at identifying these. After saying that, am I missing something at maddieclashes or is there only one listing for the 1997P?
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Hi J - what I find easiest is to use the Search tool at the site. Type in 1997 and it'll return everything it has for the date; US or Foreign. Then click on the links to see if you can spot your coin. I did that and this was the closest I could find. But try it anyway - you never know what I might have missed! Good luck!
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Here are a couple more pics.

This appears to be another clash but it doesn't seem to match the bridge of the nose.
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The area circled here and the half of bay 9, all of 10 and 11 look polished (along with part of bay 2 and 3).
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Indeed it could be. I've found some that are very close to ones listed but just slightly different. If you get some nice shots of the clash, you may want to send it into BJ at MADDIE via the contact radio button. They may post your specimen as another 1997 clash.
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Notice the rotation of the die clash. They sometimes turn when a clash happens and the overlays are set for a normal clash. So the brow and the base on the obverse image is angled. Not straight up.

The areas that are dark in the last bays and under the right base, are cause from polishing that makes them very polished. Sometimes they are shiny like a proof die, but just in certain areas. The polishing really die the job in that area.

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Here is a little better pic, shows the clash better than my earlier pic. Any thoughts on the last column?

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1997-LMC-Clash,-Lamination-Plus
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