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 Posted 10/26/2007  06:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add secretmachines to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi all :)
i have a pair of cufflinks which I believe incorporate these coins, I was told by a japanese speaking friend:

The big letter in the middle is "one Yen" .
Around, you can see "Big Japan (Big Japanese Empire" as it was at the time ) and "Mei-ji 4 Nen" ( 4th year of Meiji Era, the souverain of the Emperor Meiji).
Meiji 4 is the equivalence of 1872. (Meiji 1st is 1868, the year the Edo Samurai Era ended and the Emperor started "a kind of" modernization.)

as you can probably tell I have no idea what I'm talking about in terms of coins, so any guidance on value, rarity, etc. would be welcome, thank you :)
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 Posted 10/26/2007  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arthrene to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you give us some pictures or scans?
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 Posted 10/26/2007  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Japan made 1 yen coins in both gold and silver, but I assume (since we're talking cuff links) that it's the tiny little gold ones, rather than the dollar-sized silver coins. The silver ones don't appear to have been issued in that year, anyway.

Just a minor correction on the date: 1868 was "Year 1", not "Year zero", so Meiji Year 4 is actually 1871 AD.

According to the 1800's Krause world coin catalogue, these coins are fairly scarce in undamaged condition; they're certainly worth more than bullion value (actual gold weight 0.0482 ounces, BV only $37.40 at current prices).

There are two varieties for this coin listed in the catalogue: "high dot" and "low dot". The dot in question is the one beneath the large square character (which means "yen"). If it's down near the rim at the bottom of the coin, it's "low dot". If it's about halfway between the "yen" characer and the rim, it's "high dot". The "low dot" variety is scarcer. Catalogue values quoted are $600 for low dot and $250 for high dot, in "Fine", the worst condition this catalogue gives a value for.

I don't know how much the value is reduced by having the coin turned into jewellery; that depends in part on how commonly these coins are found like this, and is also dependant on how badly the coin was damaged when the mount was attached. Nor do I know whether or not these coins have been copied specifically for use in jewellery - "jeweller's copies" are known for several other coin series.
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Nice coins. 1.6700 grams .900 gold Krause Y#9 year 4 (1871). Two variations, high dot and low dot. Yours looks to be the high dot, book value starts at F-$225, vf-$350, XF-$525, and UNC- $775. Can't really tell condition but looks at least VF. Deduct for the mounting.
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thank you echizento

I'm not an expert in coin condition, but they don't really show signs of wear, and all characters are clearly legible, so i'd like to think they're in excellent condition.

clearly they have 100% sentimental value, and I'm guessing were given to my ancestor as a gift, as I believe he used to be a UK tradesman dealing with the Far East.
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