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chriswinsor New Member Canada 3 Posts	Posted 11/05/2007 6:56 pm My grandfather left me some coins after he passed away last year. There were some interesting ones, some 1800's sixpence, a couple tolkens (sadly with holes or scratches, why do they all have holes?) and this coin. After at least an hour of surfing the net I couldn't find what this coin was. The words seem to either be smudged clean or never there to start with. I found some similar coins, but the kings head was turned the other way... Anyone know what it is? Sorry for the poor quality of image, I'm using the built in mac camera. Image: Photo11.jpg 88.01 KB Image: Photo12.jpg 87.62 KB Report this Post to the Staff

ChristinaM Pillar of the Community United States 547 Posts	Posted 11/05/2007 7:38 pm The reverse pic is not very clear, but I can make out what seems to a farthing (or half farthing, etc.). Does the reverse look like this: Now for the obverse, George IV ruled from 1820-30 and his portrait faces the same direction as your coin. The only thing is that the majority of coins from that particular year actually have George III on the obverse (who faces the opposite direction from yours). I'm not too familiar with British coins prior to Victoria so I am going by what I have looked up in Spink...So hopefully, someone else can chime in shortly. Report this Post to the Staff
chriswinsor New Member Canada 3 Posts	Posted 11/05/2007 11:57 pm Ya it's Britannica on the other side. It might be a farthing, but the words are no longer there. Just the date and the King. I looked up those 2 and I could only fine 1820 coins with the king facing the other way... (with Britannica on the back) I'll try to get a picture using a digital camera tomorrow. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisMattyUk Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2217 Posts	Posted 11/06/2007 02:15 am It's certainly Britannia on the reverse... it's earlier than the design Christina uploaded.. Weirdly, I have been stumped by this and I don't think it's a British mainland coin as I can't find it in any of my books. Looks like George III on obverse but he is facing the wrong way (normally faces right, at least on my coins) and the reverse Britannia is also hard to track down and there were many different Britannias as there were many different Liberties..I'm stumped! Basically, head direction seems to indicate to me it might have been issued for somewhere across the pond.. ..although George IV faces left! but it doesn't quite look like him.. Hey come to think of it, the lack of writing might mean it never was there, so perhaps this isn't a coin but a medal anyway? Edited by NumisMattyUk 11/06/2007 02:25 am Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16832 Posts	Posted 11/06/2007 04:47 am You should be aware that chriswinsor's camera has caused the pictures to invert mirror-like, and the portrait on his piece is actually facing right. The "Britannia-like figure" is facing left. Chriswinsor's location (Canada) is a clue: this is actually a Canadian halfpenny token, "anonymous" type. The "other writing" hasn't worn away, it was indeed never there to start with. The piece is listed in my 1977 Charleton catalogue as Charleton#247, Breton#1011. http://cgi.ebay.com/BUST-OF-GEORGE-...11_W0QQitemZ 110179582845QQihZ001QQcategoryZ149940QQcmdZViewItem Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Edited by Sap 11/06/2007 04:51 am Report this Post to the Staff
NumisMattyUk Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2217 Posts	Posted 11/06/2007 06:21 am I did consider the possibility of it being a mirror-reflection but I had no inkling that cameras did that... Report this Post to the Staff
chriswinsor New Member Canada 3 Posts	Posted 11/06/2007 4:03 pm Ya he's right it's reversed :D Forgot to mention that my bad. Thanks a ton for the info Sap, I never would have known. Really neat history, I'll definitely hang on to this. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisMattyUk Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2217 Posts	Posted 11/08/2007 04:10 am Argh... Chris stumped me there with his crazy camera.. :<( Report this Post to the Staff
Peter THOMAS Pillar of the Community Australia 2830 Posts	Posted 11/09/2007 02:08 am G'day, KG3 died on 29 Jan 1820. The U.K. gold & silver coins of 1820 were all issued with KG3 on the obverse: gold: double-sov, sov, and half-sov silver: crown, half-crown, shilling, sixpence; and the maundy set, 4d, 3d, 2d, & 1d. there were no U.K. copper coins of 1820. A half-crown, showing KG4, and with a new design reverse, bearing date 1820, was issued. The KG4 half-crown is much more readily available that the KG3 version, and particularly in the better grades. Forgeries of the shilling and half-crowns are common. if you look to the left, my avatar is the reverse of an 1820 sov - the last of the "garter sovereigns". Peter in Oz Edited by Peter THOMAS 11/09/2007 02:10 am Report this Post to the Staff
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