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Proper Alignment For 1882 Three Pence?

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Anyone know whether the striking alignment for the 1882 Victoria 3 pence is supposed to be coin or medal? Thanks a lot. HABIB
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Krause doesn't state whether coin or medal aligned. I believe that the normal alignment is coin aligned.
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It is supposed to be medal orientation. Most British coins have this orientation rather than the "coin" orientation that we have.
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According to the Spink catalogue, British coins of Queen Victoria prior to the "jubilee" coinage of 1887 were normally "coin alignment", the same as American coins. Since 1887, all British coinage has been "medal alignment".

So an 1882 3 pence is supposed to be coin-aligned.
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Thanks all for the info and thanks for the link--I assumed coin alignment was correct for the 3d of this era, since that is what mine is, but I wanted to be sure. Interesting that Krause ignores this detail.
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Re. sap's reference to Spink; this is quite interesting as I've just had a leaf through my pot of British antique coins and I have a Sixpence and a Shilling dated 1817 and 1819 respectively in medal-alignment <--> (the sixpence is slightly off-centre but it's basically medal) and a groat dated 1836 also aligned "<-->" - as a medal. On the other hand, I found a Shilling dated 1836 in "coin" alignment.
Looking further, the halfpenny of 1806 is in coin as is the 1720 farthing.
They are quite mixed generaly after George III....
Strange that my pot now looks quite predominantly medallic...
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Yep, those are all normal alignments for their types. Prior to Victoria, the alignments were up and down all over the place, though usually consistent within a particular type. This is presumably why Spink gives the alignment for each type. I just wish Krause did the same, too.
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from what I can see 1887 is right as being when it switched from coin to medal for 3d 6d and 1s, but the penny, halfpenny and farthing are medal as far back as 1825, then coin before that. There is also a medal fourpence from 1842.
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