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Julia Domna Denarius

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As promised for A/M one more from my little stash of silvers
Obverse - JVLIA AVGVSTA, draped bust right
Reverse - VENVS FELIX, Venus standing left holding apple & drawing out fold of drapery.
RIC 580
Weight - 1.92g ( another low weight coin )


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Just some Faustina sr/jr and a couple of others left so I will save them for another day.
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 Posted 03/16/2015  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight is really light, looks like it's a small flan. Could be clipped but I'm not seeing any signs of that.
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Possible fouree !
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Its 15mm at its widest Echizento.
I wish RVFVS
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Looks real to me. Wow that is light weight. I am surprised it even circulated ( back then the weight of a coin meant a lot)
Very nice ten bob.
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That is a very small coin, but I would be happy to have it, it is very pretty.
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Thx A/M, PISH.
I spent a lot of time doing the research on this 1 and it appears that this is indeed much lighter than the others I found, 2.45g being the lightest.
They are also struck on a very tight flan with parts of the legends missing/ part struck.
Yet again the weight is somewhat puzzling
Maybe Echizento's suggestion of clipping could be the answer, although the edges are now rounded its the most plausible answer.
I cant confidently rule out FR's suggestion but the metal looks consistent under a strong loupe.
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I was thinking a fouree also but I don't see any core bleed material showing. I was also thinking maybe a Limes Denarius but the metal looks too good for that also. So I'm back to possibly being clipped.
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I think it is genuine. Quality control back in those days was not very good. A good example is a Sept. Severus denarius ( shown here awhile back) that I will try to buy ( if I can ever stop buying Siliqua :) that weighs nearly four grams!
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Limes denarius of Hadrian
17-8mm 1.97 grams

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Based on the diameter the weight appears to be in line with yours. I would bet you a sestertius that you have a fouree !
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And I will bet you a Siliqua, that it is genuine, F.R.
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I'm all in
I need to make a call or send an e-mail but its too late so it will have to wait until the morning.
Glad you like it, whatever it turns out to be
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Perfectly genuine silver denarius of the period. From the private collection of one Mr D.Copson, previously a resident in Nottingham (no longer with us). One of 86 similar size and weight silvers, perhaps the guy collected light weights lol.
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Thanks Kev
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F.R. you own someone a Sestertius
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I am not entirely convinced !

Unfortunately the Hadrian was sold off last week but I do recall it being quite thin.
I would want a specific gravity test done before I removed any doubt.
It seems extremely light. At about 50% of its appropriate weight I think something more than diameter is involved !

I could be wrong ! But I am still sceptical
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