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Wheat Cent Varieties

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My LCS said they'd let me go through their buckets of wheat cents to look for varieties and such. Obviously things like key dates would have been pulled. I'm somewhat new to US varieties, so where is a good place to start to get quickly acquainted with what to look for? What about pricing if I find doubled dies or RPMs? Is there a good guide I should buy?

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I would become familiar with the different types of doubling on varieties. The areas they happen and find these, buy them and later look up for the numbers. But I would just start with coppercoins.com and spend a lot of time becoming familiar with that. It is free and will help you learn what is possible. make a mental note and go from there.
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I also have a bunch of Wheats and LMCs to finish going through its no where near as easy as the coinsandcanada site.
I still have a lot to learn about these cents too.
Here are a few key dates to watch for:
1909-S V.D.B.
1909-S
1914-D
1922 (No D)
1931-S
1943 Copper
1944 Steel
1955/55 Double Die
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When we make a list, what happens to coins that isn't on the list? You end up tossing back a coin. So I check each coin for a potential variety. Know how doubled dies look and view them in this light. You will find new varieties then.
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Sounds like great advice. I was looking at coppercoins.com earlier and a lot of the links weren't working for me, is this normal? I'll check more though. Are there books I should look for as I get more familiar with varieties?
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Best to use the search option on the home page. You can put in the year/mint DDO-DDR-RPM-OM and do a search.
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I second Coop's advice. I was realizing of late that when I just searched for specific varieties, I missed a ton of opportunities. I even have recollections of pausing on a coin (burn in the image) and tossing it back to find out later that the variety I was looking for was worth a fraction of the one I tossed!

I'm still in transition, but learning the types of doubling is helpful especially where there aren't any pictures (e.g. Coppercoins) to look at.
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ditto on that Rackster.
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Forgive the newbie questions, but is there a grade when it's pointless to look for DDO and such? The photos on coppercoins look to be AU and MS coins.
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There are nine classes of doubled dies so take your time with the research.The Cherry Pickers Guide has a lot of useful info as well.Good luck with your hunting.
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http://lincolncentresource.com/
Coppercoins used to have a couple of books out on Lincoln Cents. If still available, good references.
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This is going to become addicting, isn't it?

Appreciate the info!
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yes chequer, all coins have a grade, DDO and normal, rpm s, ect. there are grading scales for circulated as well as uncirculated [mint state].
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His question was whether the added value of a DDO extends to the lower grades. Like anything else in numismatics, rarity counts for that. A 1969 DDO would be worth quite a bit in F15.
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The pricing guide is on their site to help with circulated coins. Sometimes die state make a big difference on some varieties. IE: 1963D-1DO-001
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds
Notice the comments about die state how it affects the price of the coin. (look at all three die states to see why the later die states are less desirable. On proof coins, ones with a cameo are a light higher in pricing. Some RPMs are better in earlier die states than others.

But the reason the coins on coppercoins are AU/BU mostly is, they want to have the best example they can post. If there is a poorer example on hand they may change it when better examples are found. Thus some die states don't have images as there hasn't been a good example of that die state submitted yet.
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