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After returning my previous 09-S VDB because I thought it was borderline RB, I picked up this coin. Clearly this is an RB example, and fairly clean except for the rim nick on the obverse. What's your take on this coin? I would guess it's at least 60RB, but as the last coin in question demonstrated, I appreciate the expertise on this forum! Thanks so much!  Rim nick is at 11 o'clock  The mint mark and VDB check out to be genuine  |
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If that is real, I would say that it is without a doubt the nicest one that I have ever seen. If it isn't too personal, how much would something of that caliber cost you?
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I would say that it is without a doubt the nicest one that I have ever seen.
Well thanks! The coin does check out with the mint mark and VDB diagnostics I have. Personally, I really like the rainbow toning of this one, and I got it for 1/2 the last example I posted (since returned): $1500. It's funny, because this one has fewer marks in focus areas. Still, with that rim ding, I might go max MS62-63 RB. Edited by KurtS
11/28/2007 12:28 am
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Fantastic coin and great price. Just imagine when the 2009's come out how that one will appreciate. WOW, nice.
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You're being far too hard on the grade due to the rim nick. Go spend time on ha.com and look how PCGS grades Lincolns. I've got quite a few hours in there and PCGS is more forgiving than most people here think. I'd say that's a minimum MS64 and max MS65 coin you have. That rim ding will definately take it out of MS66 land. From what I've seen, the MS66 Lincoln's are basically flawless.
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I might add...if you got that for $750 is was a STEAL. In fact, I'll give you $850 today if you want to sell.  |
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Thanks Carl...I was thinking that Lincoln's Bicentennial might create renewed demand. Perhaps this explains the recent spike in RD auction prices? BadThad, we'll I guess there's no purpose in grading stricter than PCGS. $750 would have been robbery. This was 1/2 this coin or $1500: https://goccf.com/t/21860The irony is that this coin is in noticeably better shape. Aside from the rim ding, there are no marks under 8X in focus areas, and only a couple of marks in the field on each side. The photo doesn't exactly capture the color...the toning ranges from gold, red, and green. |
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Very nice coin. Great pickup. Just for future reference, there is a guy on ebay that is one of the best of the best when it comes to 22 plains and SVDB's. His user name is iras4. I like the even color on that coin, great eye appeal and certainly higher in grade than you are stating. |
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Hi Kurt
Nice looking coin .
a couple of thoughts ,,once the coin tones to nice colors such as this coin ,, In real life the red and red brown designations as far as market appeal of the coin no longer carry the same weight ,, it becomes a toner and that puts it into a third market bracket where prices can exceed those of either of the other two color designations .
The toner market goes across the board as far as denominations go ,, and is a very active market place ,,I have to tell you that I'm surprised that the coin went for half price of the suspected RB coin.
as for the grade of this coin ,,by PCGS looser standards it may holder at 64 (If the rim damage does not eliminate it from PCGS slabbing standards)
By the older and more critical standards the coin is a 63.
Metalman
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Thanks Metalman for your insight. Regarding toning of this coin, I was thinking that too. It's really the most distinctive feature...and I think the toner crowd would like it. I find it interesting how the rim marks are toned too, which suggests it happened long ago. I only noticed this mark under a loupe, so I think it will pass ok.
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11/28/2007 1:23 pm
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I agree absolutely beautiful coin with great toning!
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Kurt
If its possible can we get pics of the obverse which show the rim and the area below the bust ?
Metalman
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Metalman--it's currently in a cheapo "slab". After I submit it to PCGS or NGC, I'll photograph it again.
I did my best to scrutinize the obverse rim, and I see no problems.
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Check the coin for a small die crack below the bust closer to the right side this die crack may or may not be present but it goes a long way toward authentication if it is ,, also check the rim above I(N) for dash shaped rim nicks and above WE for any visable rim nicks that resemble acute accent marks (if these marks are present there is a chance that the coin is a struck conuterfeit .)
Metalman
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Admittedly, those are hard areas to scrutinize due to this slab, but I'll check that if I need to crack the case--thanks!
Right now, I'm observing the coin under a 32X stereo microscope, and the mintmark passes all the diagnostics--and is definitely part of the coin. The same goes for VDB--very cool to see under this magnification! If I can manage pics sometime, I'll post them.
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as for the grade of this coin ,,by PCGS looser standards it may holder at 64 (If the rim damage does not eliminate it from PCGS slabbing standards)
By the older and more critical standards the coin is a 63.
Metalman, I think your a little hard on Lincoln grading. You have a lot more experience and knowledge than me, but I'm learning fast. At my local shop there's two Lincoln experts that run it....I'm learning a lot from them. They consistantly grade coins higher than I do and VERY, VERY rarely do they ever use any magnification. I think I've seen them use a loupe 2-3 times ever, and I go there 1-2 times a week. I've seen coins they send to PCGS and they always get the grade right, rarely have I seen a prediction by them miss. It's a fun place to hang out. Anyhow, some of the small hits we are so critical of really don't have a huge effect on the grade, it's all about eye appeal, luster and flow lines. I think PCGS is a bit more forgiving than most people here think. Like I've mentioned before, I think there's a lot to learn from browsing the ha.com slabbed coins. There's some great photos in there and you can pick up their grading habits by looking at them. Between this shop and ha.com, I think I've learned a lot about grading Lincolns. |
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