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Help With The ID Of This Big Bronze Coin | Tabala, Lydia?

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 Posted 12/07/2007  6:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add happyprince to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Does anyone know about this big bronze coin?it is 15.7 grams.Behing there is a man holding spear.Thanks.

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 Posted 12/07/2007  8:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure of the ID, but I can tell it's got two counterstamps on it - see the two deep oval-shaped indentations on the reverse, at 4 o'clock and near centre? With a bit of extra cleaning down in there, you might be able to read the countermarks. Not that that will tell you very much about the host coin.
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 Posted 12/07/2007  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add happyprince to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot Sap
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Not sure of the ID either, though the image looks a little like a Roman Provinical of Faustina I. It's a little odd seeing counter stamps on the reverse, but I guess it really didn't matter where they went.
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I see that GraceOutcast is doing the "Bump" again! I'd need to see more of the lettering, but what I do see looks nonsensical, like on the pseudo-Roman barbaric coin I posted here a few weeks ago. You might do a bit more cleaning, as Sap suggests, around the edges to see if you can read anything that's definitively Roman, or just gibberish to make it look like a Roman coin.
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 Posted 07/25/2008  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The language on this coin is Greek, not Latin - the giveaways are the "W"-shaped omegas - Latin doesn't have a letter W.

Back when happyprince first posted this coin, he was posting a whole bunch of interesting and rarely encountered Greek and Roman Provincial bronzes from the area around what is now northwestern Turkey. Most we (or the folks over on FORVM, where he posted as well) could roughly identify, this one we couldn't.

The reverse doesn't have much readable text, except for "AVT" (or perhaps DVT). On the obverse, you can read quite a lot of the lettering around the portrait: "...TWN K....A?ALEWN...". But entering this (and any reasonable alternative interpretation of it) into the Wildwinds partial inscription search came up empty.

My best guess, now I've had a few months to think about it: Tabala (TABALEWN}, in Lydia, western Turkey. This one is very similar, and has an obverse legend that fits (IEROPOLITWN KAC TABALEWN), but the whole coin is not similar enough to inspire any certainty in this attribution.

Coins from this part of the world just don't come onto the market often enough to get a good representation of these coins on the online databases. You need the specialist catalogues, which I don't have.
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