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j_h_s Pillar of the Community United States 1934 Posts	Posted 12/09/2007 09:13 am Were there two types of these pennies? Some with the "S" offset (SE) of the "5" and some with the "S" due South of the "5"? Also, I have one on which the die cast, "IN GOD WE TR" and the date is offset from its base. Any comments? Report this Post to the Staff

j_h_s Pillar of the Community United States 1934 Posts	Posted 12/09/2007 09:15 am Correction...one of the styles the "S" is SW of the "5" and the other the "S" is due south of the "5" Jim Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 12/09/2007 09:29 am I don't know about the specific date, but mint marks were individually punched into dies. It's certainly likely that the location of the mint mark could be different, die-to-die. Can you get pics of the second coin you describe? Report this Post to the Staff
j_h_s Pillar of the Community United States 1934 Posts	Posted 12/09/2007 09:40 am Here's the picture... It's not good enough to see the offset of the date Image: 19542igweTR2.jpg 52.87 KB Report this Post to the Staff
Jim1953 Pillar of the Community United States 2600 Posts	Posted 12/09/2007 12:57 pm Jim, Superdave is correct mint marks were hand punched in the 1950s and are all over the place. If I can get my new computer and scanner to work together, I will post some examples. I have a 1956-D where the "D" is rotated 10 degrees (I am estimating) and almost touches the 9. I have a 1960-D that does the same and one that is so far south of proper location that you would think the guy was drunk. The missing "ust" in trust is typically cause by a Grease Filled Die or polishing done to the die to fix a problem. Missing that much of a devise seems unusual, though. Not sure what you mean by offset from it's base. Jim Edited by Jim1953 12/09/2007 12:59 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 12/09/2007 3:50 pm Looks to me like a strike through on the UST. The 4 on the date looks like a hit that happened to the date. The damage may have moved the metal to make it look different. Could have been a coin wrapper as it is in that area where damage is noticed. The question about the mint marks. You can find one/two/three/more mint marks on the same coin. The degree of separation may vary as the punch may have been too close to the date, or missed from one punch to another. There were thousands of dies that you can see the separate punches with separation. I'll list just a few. https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._1MM_003.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...s1mm003l.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...s1mm007m.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...s1mm010e.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum..._1MM_001.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...d1mm001m.jpg https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...d1mm015m.jpg Edited by coop 12/09/2007 3:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff
j_h_s Pillar of the Community United States 1934 Posts	Posted 12/10/2007 06:00 am Thanks, coop and jim...what I mean about the date is: after it was set onto the coin, it looks like it was smeared downward a little bit, so, its original base is visible and the relief of the date itself is not atop the base, but offset downward a little bit. Maybe it's visible in this picture. Image: 1956Sdate.jpg 75.62 KB Report this Post to the Staff
Jim1953 Pillar of the Community United States 2600 Posts	Posted 12/10/2007 08:08 am Jim, with the new pic I see now what you are referring to about off the base. There is Machine Doubling in the date. This is caused by die chatter or hop or what ever you want to call it. It can be differentiated from a doubled die by the flat or shelf appearance of the doubled image or what you call the base. Jim Report this Post to the Staff
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