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New Member
United Kingdom
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Some years ago I was bequeathed two Anglo Saxon coins. One of them is a Edgar penny the other a Canute penny. A friend of mine who has some knowledge of hammered coins doubts their authenticity. Images of the Edgar coin are attached. I have always believed that that these coins are genuine. What do you think? I would much appreciate your opinion. The Canute coin will follow.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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What is it's weight in g ?
It should be sterling silver.
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New Member
 United Kingdom
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The weight? A good point indeed! I will advise!
As matter of interest the coin has the following details:-
Thickness: 0.031" whereas a 'museumreproduction' is 0.048" thick.
The coin is inscribed:-
EADGAR.REX and HERIG***ERMG the moneyer.
Many thanks for your response!
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Attached is an image of the King Canute coin whose authenticity has been doubted.
The coins details:-
Thickness 0.027" whereas a 'museumreproduction' is 0.045" thick.
The coin is inscribed:-
CNVT REX ANGLO and PINSIG ON LVNDE the moneyer.
I will advise the weight shortly.
Many thanks for your interest!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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The pics of the Canute haven't attached I'm afraid ...
as for the Edgar/ Heriger, it's not a series I'm familiar with. Looks very neat. The only questionmark for me is the very round stop between the A and D on the obverse ... but that may be OK for all I know.
I presume there was no paperwork with the coins?
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Edited by Tom Goodheart
04/10/2015 12:54 pm
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New Member
United Kingdom
25 Posts |
Sorry, I had a prob....! The Canute pics attached. With the Eadgar coin there is a small card which reads   |
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New Member
United Kingdom
25 Posts |
As you can see I have a prob...! The pics should now be there!
The Eadgar card reads:-
Anglo-Saxon England
Eadgar
939-975AD
Silver penny
minted by a moneyer
named Heriger
about VF or better
The Canute card reads:-
Anglo-Saxon England
King Canute
1016-1035AD
Silver penny
This coin is of good Anglo-
saxon style with a portrait
of this King, and was
minted at London
Extremely Fine
Many thanks for your interest!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
856 Posts |
What shape are the cards Peter? Square or round? Hand written or printed? If round and hand written pics of those could help. Oh, and while it's not my area (my coins are the last of the hammered issues) the Cnut looks OK to me.
Did your friend say why he thought they were possibly doubtful?
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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The Cnut looks good to me,not sure about the Edgar though,have you got a museum nearby with a numismatist,might be worth letting them have a look & will be able to tell you for sure.
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Many thanks for all you comments!
The coin info I have for each is printed on cards 43mm square.
My numismatic friend advised me about 12 years ago that the Eadgar was worth £100 the Canute £80,
with both having the same comment:- 'if genuine'!
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I'm thinking you could double or quadruple those amounts. If you change your settings to receive emails or send me one, I'll forward you a link to a dealer site you can look at.
Edited by Tom Goodheart
04/10/2015 4:12 pm
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New Member
United Kingdom
25 Posts |
Thanks Tom, I have changed my settings to receive emails. I would be nice to have confirmation that they are genuine!
And if so, they have certainly gone up in value!
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New Member
United States
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I'd be a little concerned about the authenticity of the Eadgar penny. Two things worry me: 1) The coin is quite perfectly round. Despite what appears to be some minor imperfections to the rim the overall round shape is preserved. This is unusual on all but the most exquisite specimens. 2) There appears to be some bubbling on the coin. This is most notable in the center of the obverse and the left field of the reverse. Cannot be completely sure based on the pictures, but it is of some concern. Surface bubbling is typically a feature of cast counterfeits. The coin does display Strike Doubling on the reverse (common on genuine coins) which may indicate that it is a copy of a genuine penny. Nothing about the Cnut penny jumps out at me as being counterfeit. Although guilt by association... Checking the weight would be helpful toward assessing authenticity. See if you can get a 0.01g coin/jewelry scale (can usually be obtained for about $15 on ebay) |
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New Member
United Kingdom
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Many thanks for your comments Nap! I have some more details of the coins:- Eadgar:- Weight: 1.35g O/all dia : 0.832"/0.843" Canute:- Weight: 0.95g O/all dia: 0.718"/0.722" The folded printed cars with the coins, as attached. Dolphin Coins of London are still in existence elsewhere in the UK. I understand that they are a reputable organisation tending to deal in high end coins etc. But they might have been misled! They seem to have gone to a lot of trouble. What do you think based on the above details?      |
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New Member
United States
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I think the weights for both coins are ok. That's an encouraging sign, although not conclusive.
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New Member
United Kingdom
25 Posts |
This coming week I will try and contact Dolphin Coins to see what they have to say.
They might have dealt in the past in museum copies as part of their business!
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