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Numismatic Gold Coins Vs Bullion, What Do You Prefer

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Here are my recent pick ups. Please let me know your thoughts on Numismatic Gold vs. Bullion.

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 Posted 04/12/2015  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I acquired my first numismatic gold coin at 15 years old in 1962, so it's numismatic gold all the way for me!
I have only one bullion coin: a 1991 Australian one ounce platinum Koala.


I have eight ancient gold coins, and about 20 gold coins struck after about the gold rush days of the mid 18th century. I have only one example each of hammered gold (French) and milled gold (British).

The numismatic gold market, value wise, is interesting
1.) Their value is for a minor part, affected by the spot gold price.

2.) Their value is also for a minor part, is affected by general broad trends in the stockmarket, that is if World stockmarkets are on the rise there is more international money to be spent on fine arts objects generally.
3.) Their value for a much greater part is affected by the general numismatic market. This has a tendency to increase their values. The reverse also applies: They can be 'safe haven' investment in times of World Financial Crisis.

I also have a 1937 British Five pounds gold proof, and a St Gaudens Double Eagle, simply because I liked the designs; had them both for perhaps 20 years.

Since, for me, they are are a lifelong 'hold', their value trends are of only a passing interest, but an interest nevertheless.

Numerically, gold coins represent less than 2% of my collection.

Points 2 annd 3 are also influential in the general numismatic market.

Are there better investments than either bullion gold coins or numismatic gold coins? Definitely yes.
But from my experience covering most of a lifetime, numismatic gold coins are a better investment than straight bullion gold coins.

Average World inflation rate ofer the last 50 years is about 3 1/2%. Numismatic gold coins, over the period of half of a lifetime and of the types that I have, have been averaging about 4 1/2%. That is a very considerable %age difference.
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Numismatic over bullion all day every day
The coin dosnt even have to be minted in gold or silver to have numismatic value.
Gold coins are however my favorites as there is NO issues with toning or corrosion and they just lòok great
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Although most of the4 bullion I have is coin..I think The best form to buy is bars. I prefer numismatic coins..bullion just doesn't have a story
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I'd like to have lots of true numismatic gold, where the bulk of the value is numismatic (coin price > 3x melt?). I'd even like to have lots of semi-numismatic gold, where roughly half of the value is numismatic (coin price = 1.5x to 3x melt?).

Unfortunately, most of what I have is bullion gold. I prefer pre-1933 gold coins (no bars or generic rounds at all), but I do have a few modern bullion coins (Eagle, Krugerrand, Maple Leaf, Onza, Buffalo, MX 50 Peso, Britannia, etc.)

In NY state, you have to pay sales/use tax if you pay more than 15-20% over spot for a coin, so most of my purchases are limited to common-date pre-1933 bullion. With these restrictions, you can still pick up a reasonable variety of common date coins:

- US $20, $10 (sometimes), $5 (rarely)
- UK Sovereigns
- MX pre-33 50 Peso (and other Pesos)
- Various Latin American Pesos, Reales, Reis, Soles, etc.
- Continental European Francs, Marcs, Lire, Kroner, Pesetas (rarely), Guilders, etc.

I do have a few semi-numismatic and true numismatic gold coins -- mostly US, and mostly lower denominations from $1 to $3.




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Thanks for the feedback guys. I love the numis too. Would love to see some of your collections. I got allot of feedback about sliding the coins and ruining them. I had no idea I was doing that. NEVER AGAIN!
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