2000 Nickel Error Lamination/ Grease/ Or Double Die?

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Eva Valued Member United States 190 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 9:39 pm Any value on this? Report this Post to the Staff

CoinMasters Pillar of the Community United States 5964 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 9:52 pm Can you describe what you are looking at? Report this Post to the Staff
BlueSolo Pillar of the Community United States 740 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 9:54 pm The pictures are so dark. I'll tell you one thing I've learned about nickels from 2000: They always seem to be greasers/VLDS. I don't think I've ever seen a clean struck 2000 nickel and that date from your image looks like all the rest I've seen from this year. Check this out, finally seen a good strike for this year. I thought they made the font special for the 2k version in celebration or something: https://goccf.com/t/90118 Edited by BlueSolo 04/13/2015 9:59 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Rackster Pillar of the Community United States 4809 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:03 pm Many ugly VLDS coins for the year. Your specimen is "one of many". Have you bookmarked your Jefferson nickel references? http://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings http://www.varietyvista.com/CONECA%...Listings.htm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:05 pm Just what it says on the reverse. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinMasters Pillar of the Community United States 5964 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:13 pm E Pluribus Unum vlds. Report this Post to the Staff
SilverStackerKid Pillar of the Community United States 6478 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:15 pm 5 cents. Report this Post to the Staff
Eva Valued Member United States 190 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:34 pm coinmaster... I already came across other 2000 Jefferson nickels and they all somehow look somehow different on the die. This nickel, however, is unique lol. Quote: Can you describe what you are looking at? A: on obverse; I'm pointing out the zeros on the year how thy are overlapping each other, the earlobe looks like has a second earlobe dropped down some, bottom lip has second lip underneath, on the left side of "Liberty" (where I put the question mark) there is what appears to be a toe or thumb, under his chin there is a thick line maybe clash of some kind, and didn't point this out but saw it after.... at the base of the braid is a hand with thumbs up! lol Reverse: just the whole thing looks weird, but I put an arrow pointing at an eyeball... might be an eye clash Report this Post to the Staff
Eva Valued Member United States 190 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:36 pm idk why the images appear dark... they look fine on my screen I zoom in and see everything perfectly Report this Post to the Staff
Eva Valued Member United States 190 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:38 pm Some letters have double strike.. zoom in and you'll be able to see it. And what is VLDS? Edited by Eva 04/13/2015 10:39 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CoinMasters Pillar of the Community United States 5964 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:41 pm This is an ordinary nickel, Eva. vlds, very late die stage. When the die is that worn it creates doubling but not doubled die. Edited by CoinMasters 04/13/2015 10:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
BlueSolo Pillar of the Community United States 740 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:44 pm VLDS: Very Late Die State. The D mint minted 1,509,520,000 nickels in 2000. Those dies got really worn out and produced what you are seeing Report this Post to the Staff
Eva Valued Member United States 190 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:48 pm Oh I see.. good to know.... good to know. Thank you all, now moving on to the next coin... sorry if I Report this Post to the Staff
tweak800 Pillar of the Community United States 1249 Posts	Posted 04/13/2015 10:51 pm Eva he is correct .VLDS or very late die state. When it happens you see the devices look almost doubled as they drift to the outer edges of the coin. I believe Mike diamond was exploring a phenomena called device creep where the devices position actually changes due to the overworking of the die. VLDS also can be seen in the die flow lines you can see those flow lines best towards the edge of the coin notice how they all go outward from the center. That's why you device look doubled because it basically looks to be flowing from its original positing . Idk if anyone has ever shown you the doubleddie.com but that website has a very detailed description of all double dies and how they are made with photos and he usually has side by side photos of vlds or machine damage right beside real double dies so you can get a good feel on the differenc3. You can also Google double die vs Machine Doubling and get some really good articles it will even bring up the double Eddie site too . If I explained anything wrong anyone pls correct me. And no worries I usually get everything wrong before I get it right you should see some of my old posts and still some today lol Edited by tweak800 04/13/2015 10:52 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 04/14/2015 12:20 pm Tip of the day: If a coin has in indent (damaged area) it is just a coin issue. If the area in question is raised on the coin, then it would be a die issue. If the coin has not been circulated and has an indent on the coin, it may be a strike issue. (something between the die and planchet leaving a mark on the coin) Dies way show extreme die wear: Devices become enlarged from die wear. Die can also be hub doubled making the devices on the coins enlarged/doubled including the mint mark RPMs (until 1989) Blockage on the die can prevent devices from forming (even the fields can be affected): The list can go on and on. But if the area in question is pushed inward, it is probably damaged. If the area is raised then it might be a die issue. Most of the time in circulation we find the damaged coins as things happen along the way to coins. But when they are raised on the coin, then they get a bit more interesting. but always ask to know for sure. Report this Post to the Staff
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