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1883-O Morgan

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Won this guy on ebay yesterday. Bought it with the obverse damage in mind; as it's already ruined by numismatic standards, I intend to add it to my collection of pocket pieces. It was minted 100 years before I was born. I'll try to put up some better pictures once I have the coin in hand.

So aside from the damage, what do you say?



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Without the BB gun hit and the dirty gunk I'd say it's a decent strike O with minimal circulation wear if any... 83o is know for rotated reverses. Is that just your pictures 0r is that a true rotation?
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I'm not sure about rotation. I'll have to check once the coin gets here. These are the seller's pics.
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Wow. How often do you see full talon details on a New Orleans Morgan? They don't come much better-struck than this one.
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Hey dave, I usually look at the center line through the long leaf left of the bow to determine how full the strike is. Are talons a better indicator?

*Nevermind SD, lol. I just read your 04o reply and it explained it perfectly.
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Please don't use this good strike as a pocket piece!
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Mods - can you please move this to the Classic grading forum? That's where I meant to put it originally.
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Ain't a problem.

Give the MM a good look when you get it. There are OMM's for this year, and these images are inconclusive. They won't make you rich with this coin but it's an added-interest note if you ever liquidate.
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Too bad about those hits on the obverse. They actually look like they might have been incurred fairly recently.

It'll be interesting to see what the luster's like when you get it in hand. From these photos, there looks to be a dull, listless aspect to the toning that suggests to me a older (over)cleaning. Those could also be hairlines in front of Liberty's nose and lips. From the standpoint of wear, high AU at worst and as has been already said a very full strike for New Orleans, but this one's "details" status would render it cull bin fodder for most dealers.
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AU-58 details. A real shame to have damage on this one.
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Here she is, live and in person. Definitely appears cleaned at some point. Some luster remaining around the edge devices. I did the usual tests to ensure authenticity. Weight is good (see picture), and not magnetic. Did the ping test, and it's slightly higher pitched against a 1921 Morgan and 1925 Peace (which are also both very slightly out of tune with each other). Doesn't seem to be a significant difference, but is there a tolerance for this? I just don't want a fake on my hands.

EDIT: I also downloaded the Bullion Test app for Android, the one that compares "ping" frequencies against those of known good coins. It checks out ok with that.

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Man that seller did a good job at enhancing his pics. He hid all those scratches. Wow.
I would send It back or get a partial refund. You have ground to stand on. He knows what he did and is hoping the buyer dosent complain. And I would filet him just on principal
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