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Can anyone tell me anything about this silver medal?

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Don't know what it is but I love it
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The script is hard to read and on the reverse it's illegible from 10 o/clock to 12 o/clock.

Obverse is something like

"Counsel and university in Rotnburg"

Reverse:

"Sunshine xxxxxxx joyful light on the towers"

The chequered shield on the obvers seems to indicate Bavaria, but no Rot(h)enburg University to be found.
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This is a chronographic medal, first of all, which usually means Germany.
LVX reDIIt rVtILae Vt LaetVntVr LVMIne tVrres ("The light returns so that the red towers" -- Rotenburg -- "may rejoice in the light")
LVXDIIVILVLVVLVMIV, and that comes to 1749 if I count aright.
Wikipedia tells me that a new Landgrave, Constantine, began to rule over Hesse-Rotenburg in 1749, but the arms shown for that principality look like nothing pictured on this piece.
The NI Library has a copy of a German work entitled "Clavis Numismatica" which has a pretty extensive coverage of these things, sorted by their inscription, but I don't see either "Consilii..." or "Lux rediit..." as a heading.
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Thanks for the info. I was thinking it may be some kind of University award?
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This doesn't really look like a prize medal to me. I like it, though!
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So in this sense, universitatis civium means the incorporation of the citizens of Rothenburg, and not a "university."
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No way would I have managed "civium" from that melange of letters.
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"Universitas" is the correct Latin for "corporation" or "guild". I guess I must have misread the chronogram by 5. Should have thought of a Reformation bicentenary, because that's by far the most common chronogrammatic-medal subject.
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Thanks so much for the info!
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so I'm assuming from the translation it is a medal made in 1920 to commemorate the 400th anniversary of the city of rothenburg?
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Made in 1920, for the 950th anniversary of the city, a restrike of a 1744 medal made for the 200th anniversary of the Diet of Speyer.
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