Bolivian 8 Real, Possibly 1596-1605 Pb Mark?

Hey I've been trying to get back to you for a long while and now have an hour to ID all the rest of your cobs. The minors all come from Potosi and range in date from 'circa' 1574 to 1738. Starting with the four reales denomination in sequence, although they may not be started in order from the first coin pictured I started with:

FOUR REALES

Date King Denom Date Mint Assayer Comments

1)1682 Charles II, P V 1 1 2 2 Nice pillar side

2)1696 Charles II P VR 1 1 0.5 0.5 Unclipped

3)1577-1585 Philip II P B perhaps a cast counterfeit or from a fire

4) Ditto Philip II P - Holed

5) Ditto Philip II "P" B Perhaps a cast counterfeit or from a fire

6) 1736 Philip V P "E" 1 1.5 1 0 Crudely made

7) Early Philip IV style - - Clipped with unusually large castles

8) 1577 - 1583 Philip II P C Holed but nice detail

TWO REALES

9) 1696 Charles II P VR 1 2 1.5 0.5

10) 1659 Philip IV P "E" 0 1 1 0 Low grade

11) 1656 Philip IV P E 2 1 4 3 Nice with "PH" below crown

12) Odd possibly Lima rather than Potosi, 1572 - 1588, Philip II with P over II left of shield and o over D right with cross crosslet above, perhaps a cast copy or from a fire, Type 3412 in the book but I don't know how well I like the book's attribution

13) 1577 - 1585 Philip II P B 1 0 1 1 Count the 'lis'

14) 1665 Philip IV P E 0 2 1 1.5 Nice, unclipped

15) 1617 - 1634 Philip III/IV P T 0 0 1 1

16) 1577 - 1585 Philip II P B 0 0 1 1 three lis

17) ditto Philip II P R over ? 0 0 1 1 two lis

18) ditto Philip II P R 0 0 1 1 Large "R"

19) ditto Philip II P B 0 0 1 1 Nice full rims

20) ditto Philip II "P" - Clipped so little shows

ONE REAL

21) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P M 0 0 1 1

22) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P B/R 0 0 1 1 four lis

23) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P R 1 0 1 1 six lis, good rim

24) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P B little showing

25) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P - Cast appearance

26) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P R 1 0 1 1

27) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P B cast counterfeit

28) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P B one lis, holed

29) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P B 1 0 1 1

30) 1577 - 1581 Philip II P B 0 0 1 1 cast counterfeit

31) 1673 Charles II P E 1 1 3 1

32) 1684 Charles II P V 0 1 1 2 holed, fire damage

33) 1679 Charles II P C 0 1 0 1 porous surfaces

34) 1695 Charles II P R 1 1 1.5 1

35) 1699 Charles II "P" "F" 1 2 0 0 Holed

36) 1656 Philip IV P E 1 1.5 2.5 1

37) ? Philip II "P" - missing most information

38) 1738 Philip V P M 1 1.5 2 1

39) Philip II "P"- missing most information

40)1574-1577 Philip II Six-pointed star over P 0 0 1 1 The oldest coin and quite nice.

I hope this helps in sorting them out. I see a few early 18th century coins mixed in with a wonderful 17th century "hoard" from Potosi with most coins being genuine and having much wear. I understand these are the kind of coins one might have found on walkabout in South America not so long ago, with no obvious rarities, but en mass quite unlike any other grouping I have seen. Were there no "medios" or half reales? No copper?

Thanks for sharing them.

Hi pistareen, thanks again, great information! There are no halves or coppers in the mix, the rest of the coins are all newer types. I sit down and go through these ones now with your id's and see what else I can learn. Cheers!