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How Did This Die-Clash Occur?

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How-Did-This-Die-Clash-Occur?

There is an imprint, in front of the Indian's face and a partial imprint in front of his forehead, of his head-dress feathers. I was thinking that since the die is for an incuse design, that it must have struck the coin a second time before the coin was fully expelled out of the mold.........but, I am no expert on these kinds of errors. Anybody else have any ideas?
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I'm not seeing fletches from the same design - they're too narrow - so everything else is in question too. Even if they were, no die rotation gets them there. PMD until I think some more.
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I don't see it as a clash either. As Dave says the details in the mark are much too "fine" to be from the feathers of the headress. This looks like a post strike impact.
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I'm not seeing fletches from the same design - they're too narrow - so everything else is in question too. Even if they were, no die rotation gets them there.




A die clash is the obverse and reverse dies striking each other without a planchet in between them. The result is traces of the reverse on the obverse and the obverse on the reverse.

In the case of the 2 1/5 and 5 dollar Indian gold pieces being incuse the first surfaces that come in contact when the dies strike each other are smooth so there would be much less, if any, of the obverse and reverse designs transferred to each other in the fields.

On your coin the lines in the mark in front of the Indian's face are not consistent with the lines in the eagle's tail feathers, they are not going in the same direction.

Post mint damage.
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All the same the feature is far too cute to just dismiss. My curiosity is piqued.
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