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1945 Walker Missing Designer's Initials

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 Posted 05/02/2015  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Considering the initials are incuse it would be rather difficult to hide that kind of an alteration.


Must you make so much sense all the time?

I'd have self-destructed years ago were it not for Conder.
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Here's what arrived in the mail this morning. I think "gem" is a stretch. There are too many contact marks in my opinion, for it to be a "gem", if my interpretation of choice (MS-63) and gem (MS-65) is correct.

The flow lines are uninterrupted, and I think it's the FS-901 though.

Chance

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I have finally taken time to really study this coin. I was looking for other die markers to try and make certain that this coin and the heritage one matched.

At the end of the sun ray that points toward Liberty's navel, there appears to be remnants of a die gouge (under heavy polishing lines) where the engraver apparently slipped when re-cutting the stripe detail in the flag. Both the heritage example and this coin have that attribute. There's also remnants of an earlier die clash that's been polished out below the motto "In God We Trust", again ... present on both coins.

The reason I wanted to look that closely, is because if you turn it at just the right angle to the light, a faint trace of the initials is evident .... IF you knew it was there and what it was supposed to look like, you can see it faintly. Looking closely at photos of the heritage specimen, you can see it manifest itself in the same way.

If that one is FS-901, so is mine. If it isn't, neither is mine.

The 2 coins were definitely struck with the same die pairing.

Chance
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This is FS-901. It was submitted to me by James Dupree of LA in 2007.



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It's the same as this one. If a person knew what the monogram looked like, and knew where it was supposed to be,they'd be able to make out a shadow of it. If, OTOH, they didn't know, they'd never suspect anything was supposed to be there.

Good to see you here in the forum, Ken. Your reputation precedes you. I appreciate your input, as I do that of SsuperDave. He's a knowledgeable fellow and always willing to share. I wish I had the photography skills of either of you, but there's a limit to what once can do with an 89 dollar camera.

You know I've been looking for the flying eagle $20 clash for 2 years or more. That one you posted is just exceptional.

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Good score chance, you bagged a 12-point buck there regardless of gem status or not... And I must agree with the appreciation of Ken and all the wonderfully educational pics he's been on a tear showing us. I've learned a ton about errors and the processes of creating them in the last couple of weeks. Keep it up Ken, hope to see a crazy morgan or Trade dollar error soon
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Chance, Cascade and all, thank you!
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