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Are the Lead Dog 20 pocket binder pages safe to store your coins in, after there in 2x2?
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 Posted 05/05/2015  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not familiar with those. Do you have a link to them? Someone will come along with an answer soon I'm sure.

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Those are the ones I've been using for many of my 2x2's. At a coin show I purchased a box of them and have been filling them for a long time.
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 Posted 05/05/2015  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRHer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So they are not a harmful plastic?
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They are Vinyl, which is technically harmful to coins. However, since your coins would be in carboard flips encased in mylar, prior to putting them in the pages, they shouldn't actually ever really contact the vinyl.

LOTS of people use these vinyl pages and it is probably safe. But if you wanted to be 100% safe instead of 99.9%* then you would want to look at alternative materials. Polypropylene is cheap and 100% safe, but the pages are more flimsy. There are other materials like mylar that are bit more expensive.


*totally made up statistic



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The use of the term "vinyl" makes me .

That said, I cannot imagine Wizard selling a product containing PVC plasticizers which is known industry-wide to damage the coins contained therein. And if they *do* contain PVC plasticizers, nothing you put in them will protect the coin. That stuff is capable of propagating at the molecular level. They say that they source these from various manufacturers including Safe-T (who would never sell anything dangerous) and BCW (whom I know to use polypropylene, which is safe).

Carl testifies that they work without damaging, and his experience covers enough years (longer than most CCF members have been alive) to lend pretty strong credence to his words.
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I think the term vinyl is used a bit loosely. These Dansco pages are called vinyl. I have several albums with them and I am certain they are not PVC. They do not have "the smell" and are a bit stiffer than the three ring bindered 20-pocket pages from where I moved these coins. The oldest ones are over twenty years old now. If they are PVC then they are breaking down on a geologic timescale.
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Thanks everyone!
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I was given a packet of those Lead Dog pages as a gift and I refuse to use them because they do have "the smell" and I would rather be safe. I do use those Dansco pages jbuck posted and haven't had any issues.
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If they have "the smell," throw them away.
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I don't know what "the smell" smells like, and the dance album pages also are referred to as vinyl and I don't see wizard coin supplies selling me a harmful product.
just carl has been using them and hasn't had a negative experience, so unless I have a negative experince or find out they have PVC I will continue to use them.
Thanks for the info though.
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Quote:
I don't know what "the smell" smells like
Like a brand new shower curtain.
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 Posted 05/06/2015  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRHer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, now I know what to smell for!
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Ok so the lead do pages do have PVC, any binder pages that use mylar or a safe plastic that anyone could recomend?
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