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Trying To Gather Information Regarding This 1811 8 Reales

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wonghinghi You are correct that the standard bust of the king was unpopular in China. But in 1811 it was not the legend FERDIN VII that mattered. The last acceptable bust used on a Mexican 8 Reale was the transitional bust of Ferdinand VII. I agree there are NO Class 2 coins using the standard Ferdinand VII bust but there are many in the book using the transitional design. The King's face is fatter (more like a thin Buddha than the standard gaunt portrait of Ferdinand VII) and a key point is that the ribbons are not thin on the transitional bust.

There are numerous period references to the rich or fat man being acceptable as opposed to the thin ribbons in the hair of Ferdinand.

Regarding wear - I would expect normal wear. If this coin was minted in 1830 it could have circulated off and on for 100 years before the bust dollar was demonetized in 1935. Wear should never be used as a determinant for authenticity in the case of a Class 2 coin. Like the Class 1 coins they did circulate freely.

I also just noticed another key feature pointing to a class 2 coin - the double edge arc between the F in FERDIN and the first 1 in the date. There is a gap between the side of the edge detail and the dentil arc of the face die. WHY? It is simply not a feature that should be present on a genuine coin.
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