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 Posted 05/09/2015  2:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CRHer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have aprox. 300+ coins in non mylar flips. Should I dip them all in acetone (10 minutes each side for each coin) or should I just put them into the new mylar flips?
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 Posted 05/09/2015  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChildOfTheWheat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they are PVC (They probvably are) Put them in acetone first.
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Are they silver?

I'm not sure how many times you can reuse the acetone before it useless or worse than useless. So plan on a fresh rinse for each coin.

Good luck.
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 Posted 05/09/2015  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CRHer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are a few silver mostly nickels and pennies( including a 14S and 24S)
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 Posted 05/09/2015  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What shape are they in? Can you pose some decent pictures?
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I wouldn't bother unless you think they have already been affected by the plasticizer oils gassing out onto them, in direct contact with the PVC.

They should ALL be rehoused in a non PVC environment.

My experience is that the oils will affect the coins in PVC flips, but it has been only obviously noticeable over a period of years. Red Unc. bronze coins are the ones that are the most sensitive, so examine those most closely.

If you think some have been affected, put those in acetone, in a screw top sealed jar to save the acetone and to avoid fumimg yourself, and well away from a possible ignition source.
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 Posted 05/10/2015  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Common-Cents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would use Coin Care on a few. A small bottle should be around $5 and it is easy to use. You merely dip a q tip into the solution and start from the center outwards in a circular pattern. I then pat or wipe, in the case of circulated coins, the remnant of the liquid off because it leaves an unnatural sheen. It you do this and the q tip turns green, that is evidence of PVC, and you should treat the rest of your coins. BTW, the major grading services accept coins the "sniffer" identifies as being treated with Coin Care.
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$5 for a 1oz bottle when acetone is $5/qt and leaves nothing behind to *be* detected? Heck, we're trying to decide whether the cost of acetone is justifiable here, not asking him to take a Q-tip to hundreds of coins one at a time.

Anyway, the primary worry here is PVC plasticizers, which that product does nothing for so all he'd be doing is spending extra money. Don't forgt, "green" is a later stage in the process. By the time something shows green, it's already been working for a while.

CRHer, this is a lot of work any way you look at it. I would be considering something allowing you to do the initial soak for a number of coins at a time. Heck, you're looking at close to 5 gallons of acetone to do it the way we normally recommend. Can you be sure the flips contain PVC plasticizers? That's not the only way to come up with a "soft" flip. Maybe we can get you out of the work.
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 Posted 05/10/2015  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Basically already said. Just get can of Acetone from a place like Walmart, Kmart, Target, etc. Would cost about $4 to $5 for a quart. Use a little on a clean glass dish for each coin and just dump what was used. Redo new for each coin. Very small investment to be safe, not sorry.
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I'm Curious when you "dump" the acetone after doing a dip, where are you all dumping it?
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I'd check the sewerable waste regulations in your jurisdiction, but I'm pretty sure in most places you can just flush it down the sink with plenty of water. If not, just pour the waste acetone into a dish or bowl you don't particularly want afterwards, and let the acetone all evaporate away.
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A great article about preserving your coins:


http://www.usgoldexpert.com/article...-are-ruined/

"Silica gel also can be beneficial, she reports. If
you've purchased a new camera or radio lately, you've
probably noticed a small packet of silica gel in the box.
Silica gel and silica are "very handy for maintaining a dry
environment," Maltby says. Basically, they serve as sponges,
drawing all the moisture out of the air.

Sue Maltby also recommends dipping your coins in a
neutral solution, such as alcohol, before storing them. For
his part, Bern Nagengast advises that you treat them with an
evaporative freon solution such as trichlorotrifluoroethane.
This protects the surfaces of your coins from environmental
damage, yet is harmless itself to the coins.

[Note: Since this article was first published, new production
of trichlorotrifluoroethane, a highly evaporative freon, was
banned because of its destructive effect on the earth's protective
ozone layer. And a superb new product designed to maintain and
protect coins, Intercept Shield, was introduced by John Albanese.]

http://www.interceptshield.com/


regarding interceptshield:

"PLEASE NOTE:
We are no longer accepting orders from our website!"

--Maybe someone on here could get some from their shop & sell them to the CC members?





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Do not pour any waste acetone into a sewerage system.
In the correct conditions (hopefully rarely) the atmosphere can be explosive. There have already been rare instances of the explosive atmosphere in a sewer detonating. The presence of methane gas is the reason. The other two factors to get a detonation are a poorly ventilation sewer ventilation system and an ignition scouce.

Adding acetone to such an environment will just increase the danger somewhat.
As Sap has said, just let the stuff evaporate away in an open area. SR71 jets were always refuelled in an open area, not in a hangar!

Make sure that your acetone storage containers don't leak, and are in a well ventilated place. That can be a problem in a snowy climate, in an enclosed space.

300+ coins may need a LOT of acetone, and increase your exposure to breathing the fumes. Read the safety data information.

NEVER use trichlorotrifluoroethane. It is carcinogenic to the liver. My father died from exposure to this class of solvents.
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I just dump it onto the concrete driveway. It evaporates away in about a minute. Sometime when the pyro in me is acting up I light it after I dump it on the concrete and burn it off. (I wouldn't do that on asphalt though. The solvent action of the acetone might liberate enough hydrocarbons from the asphalt that you might be able to get it burning as well.)
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...found this regarding coin storage:

http://www.translinesupply.com/dessicants.aspx
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If you want to make up your own packaging you can get silica gel a lot cheaper. For example the above has a 1 lb for $17 or 2 lb for $28 (plus $13.80 shipping). Here you can get five pounds of bulk indicating silica gel for $17 (plus $21 shipping).

https://www.deltaadsorbents.com/sil...svaQoduw0AFA

The shipping is higher for the 5 pounds but the 2 pound works out to $21 a pound and the five pound works out to $7.60 a pound.
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