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1964 D Jefferson Nickel Obverse Rim

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 Posted 05/12/2015  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's doubtful that the upset mill can generate a thin apron along the perimeter of a planchet. Narrow spacing in the upset mill only generates a tall proto-rim but no apron. It is probably some other piece of machinery. Goodness knows, planchets have to travel through many pieces of equipment before they arrive in the striking chamber.

I've seen four other cents with struck-in aprons, indicating that this is not a one-of event.
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05/12/2015 11:25 am
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add koinpro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike, you are correct in that the effect would not be identical on my friend's planchet to what we see here. I'll have to look at it again as it has been over 25 years. As I look back it seems to me there may have been two planchets involved that piggy backed their way in. Again, I'll have to look.
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add koinpro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now that I think about it, it was an off center coin I saw with this effect (or similar). It showed on the unstruck portion of the planchet. Was this a coin that you wrote about Mike? If so what were your determinations? The effect on my friends planchet is entirely different. I mixed it up with the Off Center I saw somewhere.
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would suggest you read the Coin World article I linked to, along with earlier column on abormal forms of upset cited within that article.
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add koinpro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike! You positioned the link to that article so far down from the body of your post that it appeared to be a part of a signature and I never saw it. Very interesting article. In any event, maybe I missed it, but did you get the diameter of the so-called " Dryer Coin"? I'm interested in following this effect further in trying to learn more about the causes. On the Off Center, this one is plain strange. Do you own the coin or have larger images I can see? I have an idea but really need to see the surfaces in far greater detail.
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll send you enlarged photos of the off-center nickel. It is really strange-looking, although its weight, dimensions, and composition match that of a nickel planchet. I did not record the diameter of the " Dryer Coin". I believe I still have it, so I'll dig it out and get you the measurements.
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