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2 More From My Unknown Pile, 1 X Greek & 1 Unknown

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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Sorry to keep asking for help everyone but I need to get the pile down and this is the only way at the moment.
Coin 1
Obverse - Greek bust ?
Reverse - Urn and staff, some of the legend remains


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Coin 2
Not sure which is Obverse & Reverse
Side 1 - 4 Omegas linked together to form a circle with a dot in the middle
Side 2 - I think the first picture is the right way up but I am only guessing



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As always your help is greatly appreciated
TIA
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 Posted 05/12/2015  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nş 1 remembers me a radiate of Tetricus II...
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 Posted 05/12/2015  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps a young Caracalla for coin 1?
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the first coin is roman, it shows the "sacrificial implements" reverse. I'm not sure who, I think Caracalla is a good guess. Maybe a young marcus aurelius?

I'm lost on the second one.
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 Posted 05/12/2015  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
number 2 looks like it might be similar to this...

I think I can see the Ujjain symbol.

Empire of the Satavahana
Anonymous Potin Karshapana
S.37 BC to 107 AD 19 mm x 2.64 g Obverse: Jeweled Elephant right.Brahmi- Sa Ta Ka Ni Sa
Reverse: Ujjain Symbol
Ref: Mitchiner ACW 4941ff



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 Posted 05/12/2015  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Athalbert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nş1 is too small to be a caracalla...
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 Posted 05/12/2015  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies everyone
I have scoured the Severan dynasty with no success and those preceding/ following also.
The closest match I could find was an Augustus Maximus coin which had the implements in the same position but it was a silver coin.
A/Noob, that's a very nice coin you posted but I think its a completely different empire to mine.
The 1st picture shows 4 Omega symbols rather than circles with dots inside, the Omega's led me to think it is Greek.
I hope you can all understand now why I keep asking for help with my " mystery " coin pile, hopefully we can get it down a little
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 Posted 05/12/2015  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, try Gordian III. It has that boyish look that Gordian has.
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Thanks. I did not say that was the Empire, I said it was similar, but there is no coin I can think of with "omegas" that would make no sense. I am 90% sure what you see is the Ujjain symbol. It could be any number of dynasties over a period of about 500 years. Most have this symbol or a variation of it. Which empire do you think it is? The coin is almost certainly from Jammu area or the Deccan plains.

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Looking forward to seeing if someone can definitively track down coin #2. I also was immediately thinking a variant of a Ujjain symbol, but came up short trying to match it. I do see how the shapes can be read as omega's in a radial pattern too, but again can't think of a match. And, for that matter, when the first pic of coin #2 is viewed at an angle, it's also at least superficially reminiscent of a cross pattee as seen in some Anglo-Saxon designs like the brooch and coins (sceattas) below...

Wow. I hope somebody gets this one...It's a challenging one for sure...

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 Posted 05/13/2015  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A/M thanks for the suggestions but still no joy.
To my untrained eye the lips/nose & eye of the bust have a Greek " look " rather than Roman, making me think its a " Republic " coin.
Another search has turned up very similar bust types for Octavian but I havnt found an exact match yet.
Anoob, very sorry if my response appeared dismissive.
I had brain freeze occurring regarding the Omega symbols and was far too quick to point that out, hindsight allows me to see the similarities now but I think you might have been usurped by BobL and his offerings
I am not familiar with either of the periods suggested so my next question may seem a little basic,
They are many centuries apart and using the legend letters as a diagnostic tool ( if possible )
Which period would the style of letters fit ?
Thanks again for all your efforts
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I think the text on the second coin is Brahmi, I will have some time later to try and work on it.

In the mean time look at this for your enjoyment.

http://jesseacosta.net/web/inventio...brahmi_l.gif
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 Posted 05/14/2015  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I have a partial legend, but I could not get it to work through and only two of the letters are clear. Ah. more time!

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 Posted 05/14/2015  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your efforts A/N,
I must admit that I have completely drawn a blank on both coins
That's why they went in the " unknown " pile in the first place
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 Posted 05/18/2015  04:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenbobbit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like they are destined for the " unknown, unknown " pile
Thanks for your efforts AM & A/NOOB
I will select a couple of new ones to post.
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