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I purchased this coin from the person who excavated it in Greece. He said it was broken when he dug it up. I believe it has crystalized since it is brittle and the silver is soft when cleaned. The weight is 15.40 grams so it seems right. What is the best way to clean and preserve this coin? thanks Joseph

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 Posted 05/13/2015  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephrg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the reverse

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 Posted 05/13/2015  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it not illegal to buy from Greece?
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 Posted 05/13/2015  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephrg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased the coin from California I believe he brought it back with him
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 Posted 05/13/2015  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, smuggled then.
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 Posted 05/13/2015  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would not attempt to clean this coin any further. If it is very brittle you really don't want to handle it too much. I hate to see ancient coin encapsulated, but in the case of this one that's probably the best thing to do to preserve it. Also a word to the wise, buying coins from restricted countries such as Greece can get you in big trouble.
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 Posted 05/13/2015  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephrg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I bought from USA not sure when he dug it up maybe before the laws changed also not sure if it was Greece I just assumed so. Purchased on ebay where many Greek coins are listed so who knows if they are being sold legally.
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 Posted 05/13/2015  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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buying coins from restricted countries such as Greece can get you in big trouble.

I'm almost certain that applies to fresh imports to the US. Anything already here is fair game...until the restricted nation's government says "we've heard that (XX Y. ZZ) has some ancient (demonym) coins that we believe were illegally taken from our country; thus we are requesting their return" And poof! Big bad US government types show up to your house with a warrant and confiscate your everything in your collection matching what the nation claims was procured "illegally."

Bottom line: if you have any ancient (or possibly medieval?) coins from the restricted nations, keep them secured, don't let anyone know you have them, buy smart and don't make it too public, and wait until the restriction is lifted, lest you could find yourself on the business end of the weapon of choice that is international politics.
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That is such a stupid law that could be a spanish law...
Here, in Ibiza greek coins are found every day...
Are they part of the greek heritage?
No, they were used to pay in other countries, and they are part of the history of this island...
I have some Morgan dollars, if your country would made a law to consider illegal to export these coins...
how to know WHEN were they exported?
The roman coinage that circulated in Spain was struck in Londinium, Siscia, Roma, Aquileia, Carthago, Lugdunum...
But not in Spain! Greeks can claim what they want, I think that they arenīt right
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In my country you are innocent till the police can probe that you are guilty...
I thought that in USA you had the same sistem...
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 Posted 05/13/2015  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Before this starts to get out of hand, the point being that there are countries that restrict exporting there artifacts outside their country. However there is always going to be people that find a way to get around the system the law. On this forum we do not want to give the impression that we in any way condone this. It's your business where you buy your coins, but if they were obtained illegally don't advertise it here. Josephrg, this statement is not addressed to you I'm sure your coin is fine. It is a general comment so that others know what our stand is on this matter.

Athalbert, in the US you are innocent till proven guilty by a jury of your peers.
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Here is the link to the ebay listing if anyone is interestedhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTIC-G...p=true&rt=nc
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 Posted 05/13/2015  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
josephrg my intent was lighthearted, if I offended you I apologise.
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 Posted 05/13/2015  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephrg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No problem How this coin was found is all part of the history of the coin. Would be nice to know exactly where it was dug up because he also had many other uncommon coins for sale.
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Poor thing
I am an idiot when it comes to greeks( and other topics). So, who is this on the coin? Is it seleucid?
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I didnīt wanted to offend anyone, of course I Know That in the USA "you are innocent till proven guilty by a jury of your peers"; but Iīm not agree with these kind of laws that in fact request you to prove your innocence, we have a lot of laws in Spain that are "Mad Laws" (In Andalucia is legal to have a metal detector, but is illegal to use it including inside your home).
other law: You must carry to the local museum all artifacts older than 50 years...
In Spain our politics enjoyes making laws to regulate all life aspects, fortunatelly we, the people usually donīt take much care of what they say so we can live...
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