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Just resumed collecting after many years away. My old collection had been stored, and as we all know what containers were used many years ago, I noticed some of the green stuff when moving them to new albums/flips/containers.

Is judicious use of acetone the "best" way to remove the green stuff? Soaking and taking care not to rub, but possibly "rolling" a swab dipped in acetone if not soaking? Or has there been some neat, nifty breakthrough over years for a chemical that is "better" or more efficient to remove the residue from containers having PVC?

I am surprised that I didn't really see [much of] the green stuff on coins that were stored in Harco Coinmaster albums. Did they not use PVC? The sleeves in that album easily cracked when I removed coins and the sleeves are brittle with limited flexibility. I still moved the coins that had been stored in those for 25+ years. Did Harco survive?
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I would give the acetone a try and see what results you get. Sorry but don't know much about Harco.
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It sounds like the Harco albums are survivors. Plasticized PVC won't get brittle like that. You can let them be for the moment. Unfortunately....

Consistent with the coins' condition, each and every one of the ones in PVC will need its' own separate soak in clean acetone. Perhaps more than one, perhaps xylene can do as well from a little lower on the polarity scale. But there's no magic bullet for PVC plasticizer outgassing, especially after it's reached the stage where it's actively green on the coin.

2-3oz per coin is enough - I use large shot glasses - and the first overnight soak will probably tell you what bad spots may need to be individually attacked with a thorn or toothpick (condition dependent, though, as I'm not attacking a Proof that way). Each soak has to be followed by an individual rinse in clean acetone.

All the usual cautions and fire-breathing angst about leveling your neighborhood and launching your entire house into Low Earth Orbit if so much as a whiff of acetone escapes into the atmosphere may be assumed, of course.

And don't forget, acetone is an organic solvent and you are organic.

So how many coins we talking here?
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What is the metallic composition of the coins with "green" on them? It could be either PVC or simple verdigris. Do you have any pictures?
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Just remember that Acetone is dangerous if not used carefully. Read several older post by using the Search tab for Acetone.
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What is the metallic composition of the coins with "green" on them? It could be either PVC or simple verdigris. Do you have any pictures?


Nickels and dimes. Sometimes mostly noted by feel--tacky and slimy. Well, kind of, on the bad ones. More on edges than faces (but I don't really touch faces). Haven't gone through my other silver yet.

My copper has a bunch of verdigris, but that likely mostly was there years ago, too. I have read good things about Verdi-Care for removing verdigris. Thoughts?

No pics--haven't gone there yet.
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Harco originally used PVC pages, but later switched. Is it possible you have a mix? The PVC version would not be brittle.
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