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Unless I'm mistaken, that's a gouge. I believe a Cud has to border the rim. Nice find though.
Edited by CoinMasters 05/27/2015 12:30 am
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Looks like a pretty big chip-odd that theres no copper on it? Mabi it did just wear off
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CoinMasters: Cuds on coins has an interior die break section. After looking more, it doesn't look like a complete list though. I've tried the toothpick trick and it stays on the coin. Are there any more complete archives to find these listings?
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It is a good sized die chip. The copper has worn away because it is (now) a high spot on the coin. John1 
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Looks like Lincoln has a hearing aid.
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Here is one a friend sent me:  It is a 2007 that he found in OBW rolls. So it has all the plating on the chip. (not circulated)
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Kanga: Or a bluetooth : D
Coop: That's a nice uncirculated example. I guess I can't really make the distinction between the coin I found being a chip or a break although they borderline each other being the same thing. As I understand, with the varying depth of the missing piece of the die, a break will have the top of the metal on the coin is unstuck planchet and a chip is struck with whatever is left of the die in that area.
Edited by BlueSolo 05/27/2015 09:09 am
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Blue my expertise is limited. This coin is a Die Chip. My understanding is Cracks, Cuds, Chips, and Gouges are all from unintended incused areas on the dies- the bigger the better. An average Cud,(barring a discovery piece}, in decent condition, retails around $20.00. A die break on the other hand is actually a missing section on the die. A coin struck with a broken die would have to command the highest premium. I feel comfortable stating this because if I am in error I trust I will be corrected.
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Well, a Cud is a missing section of the die too.  Die breaks and chips are a gray area to some. I hold to a hard-and-fast definition of that I'd call a "die break:" In order to be a break, it had to be a crack first and the overwhelming majority of them will still be connected to die cracks. Something happening in the absence of an initial crack is a die chip. Then again, that's just me.
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Thanks CoinMasters and SsuperDdave, I've done some more digging on the subject: http://cuds-on-coins.com/interior-die-breaks/From Free Standing Interior Die Break: "Since voids left in the die face by natural fractures span an unbroken size continuum, there is no clear boundary between a "die chip" and an "interior die break". Any void encompassing an area of 4 square millimeters or more qualifies as an interior die break. Any void that covers less than 1 square millimeter is a die chip. In between is a gray area."
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Blue: Yours is a die chip like mine. The circulation worn the plating off the top of the chip on your coin.
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Blue, you are certainly welcome, I continue to receive information on here more than I can give it. Thanks to Dave, Coop, Koinpro, Mike Diamond (MD), and a few others. Hopefully, I will continue to close the gap, as the pleasure is all mine.
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