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 Posted 06/02/2015  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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zxcccxz, and there in one or two lines we define the difference between technical and market grading!

Both need to address the fact that gold is a soft metal and the early coins really did circulate and accumulate the marks from it.

Technical grading says this amount of contact and wear = this grade, this amount more is this lower grade. And if it means there is no such animal as an XX-## then s'beit, there are just no coins with that amount of wear.

And then the slippery slope appears. What do you mean there is no such coin as an XX-##? I want to buy one... So then you adjust things saying from here to here is the best 10% of reality so those are your XFs. This is the next 25% which must be your VFs. And now you are grading on a curve.

Yup - market grading - where all our coins are above average (with apologies to Garrison Keillor).

And I didn't say Guess the PCGS grade, so I can't vote you off the island :-)


Indeed. This is where I get a little cranky, because I do not agree that coins of the same series and type should be graded different simply based on factors such as rarity or collector pressure. Sure, a difference in strike or similar factors are fair game IMO when grade scaling based on Mint or date, but scaling a coin's grade or giving it a problem-free designation simply based on there being a lack of problem-free specimens is wrong. I understand that gold is a soft metal and that the larger coins are more susceptible to rim dings and such, and so it's fair to be a little easier when grading them as compared to copper or silver or smaller coins. However there shouldn't be such a large disparity between coins of the exact same type, size, composition and era simply based on collector pressure.

This is all my opinion of course, I'm not a huge collector of US gold, and the few that I do have are not rare dates either, so what do I know. Your coin is still very nice, but I thought I'd explain my reasoning behind "XF-40 Details" is all.
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My gut says VF35 but my head says XF40. :)
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 Posted 06/02/2015  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I did, I gave my opinion of what the grade should be rather than what PCGS gave it.

Good man.
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Ok, what'd PCGS give it?
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XF45

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/29949856

Joseph7420 nailed it!
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