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Yes, it's PCGS. Yes it's straight graded! Obverse  Reverse   Yes it was probably late Friday or very early Monday when it went through  -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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XF?
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Based on your comments, I am going to guess AU50?
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zxcccxz, read the second line in the post : )
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zxcccxz, read the second line in the post : ) I did, I gave my opinion of what the grade should be rather than what PCGS gave it. I am get increasing tired of PCGS grading problem gold coins problem-free especially Charolette and Dahlonega mint gold. The same coins which would've been in a problem holder if they were common post-1880 coins. Please have a close look at the number of scratches, digs, hairlines and dents in this coin and tell me that it's honestly problem-free.  Edited by zxcccxz
05/31/2015 10:28 pm
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I'm at VF35.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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zxcccxz, and there in one or two lines we define the difference between technical and market grading!
Both need to address the fact that gold is a soft metal and the early coins really did circulate and accumulate the marks from it.
Technical grading says this amount of contact and wear = this grade, this amount more is this lower grade. And if it means there is no such animal as an XX-## then s'beit, there are just no coins with that amount of wear.
And then the slippery slope appears. What do you mean there is no such coin as an XX-##? I want to buy one... So then you adjust things saying from here to here is the best 10% of reality so those are your XFs. This is the next 25% which must be your VFs. And now you are grading on a curve.
Yup - market grading - where all our coins are above average (with apologies to Garrison Keillor).
And I didn't say Guess the PCGS grade, so I can't vote you off the island :-)
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Comparing this one to an 1846 $10 PCGS XF45, this one looks a bit more worn. The number of scuff marks and scratches is probably about the same, although your lighting may tend to emphasize scuffs/scratches and minimize luster?
I assume the grading standards are about the same for 1846 and 1852, so this one might be XF40, VF35, etc.
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Looks like good honest wear on that one, and it did what it was designed to do - bought things! VF30ish from here, XF40 wouldn't surprise me, nice piece of history  Edited by Night-Hawk
06/01/2015 6:27 pm
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Based on the talons and shield I think they gave it EF40
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