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 Posted 06/04/2015  01:21 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi I bought this today (hope I never got burned) , bit old and grubby but is it real. I checked it with the threepence site as they have some pics of what to look for. But I'm just not sure looks right in some pics others not so much. Any help appreciated Thank in advance.

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 Posted 06/04/2015  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a genuine coin for reference.
I don't like the look of yours.

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 Posted 06/04/2015  02:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Trout yes I just don't know. I emailed the seller my concerns and this is what he said . If true one would think its real and he does seem genuine guy. But that don't mean he is aware its not real just like me. Hence I came here in hope of some help which I thank you for.

First reply.

Hi Mate, I had it checked by Chris at Downies, I had id it x-rayed and it can out spot on 925, it was weighed on 2 point decimal scale for exact weight and I rechecked on Monday by ny long tern coin dealer John Reeves who said it was good.But if anything is wrong with it just send it back for full refund-noworries Ken

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Cool, I'm here for the long haul so its all good, I got it off an 82 year old lady in Rye should be good Ken

I checked it best I could everything seemed ok except a couple of things I just wasn't sure about. Like the bar on the robe on the obverse , I cant tell if that line is in it or its filled with grime.
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 Posted 06/04/2015  03:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
any one else know if its a genuine ? any help would be great what can I show to prove its not a genuine coin. Thanks.
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 Posted 06/04/2015  03:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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any one else know if its a genuine ? any help would be great what can I show to prove its not a genuine coin. Thanks.


Serial is the man to talk to about these coins.
He has put a lot of time and effort researching this coin type

I just have a basic knowledge of them and have only handled half a dozen.
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 Posted 06/04/2015  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No worries Trout I will hang in and wait and see if he is kind enough to have ago at this for me.

I got it cheap which worries me seeing the guy seems to have a fairly good idea of what he is doing to go have it checked as he claims so wondering why so cheap but it is fairly low grade. But he says he has a 30 day money back no questions asked guarantee. Just need to find out first. If I have to there is a Iswright in the city I might take it there and have it checked.
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 Posted 06/04/2015  05:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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there is a Iswright in the city I might take it there and have it checked.

Good idea
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 Posted 06/05/2015  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone else know if this is a genuine coin. I was hoping to get an idea before payment is made . Thanks.
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 Posted 06/06/2015  02:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nevol. But I have already been there and tried to compare them. Most seem right but a couple put me of as I can not really tell . The loop around the back of the head is right and most of the other pics are pretty good but the nose and the ribbon running down to the rim on obverse I cant tell if there the same.

I think it is genuine as there is a lot of circulated grime on it and most of the things seem pretty close other than a bit worn. Am I missing something. ? Thanks.
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 Posted 06/11/2015  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add autocoupler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just comparing the coin with the fake in the threepence link, I reckon it's OK. The pointy nose and the detail of the flame in front of the riders face tells me the coin is real. Something else of note is the lettering in both legends on the fake coin is much closer to the rim beads, while the lettering on the coin above IMHO is much further away as per the real thing. Just my two bobs worth.
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Just comparing the coin with the fake in the threepence link, I reckon it's OK. The pointy nose and the detail of the flame in front of the riders face tells me the coin is real. Something else of note is the lettering in both legends on the fake coin is much closer to the rim beads, while the lettering on the coin above IMHO is much further away as per the real thing. Just my two bobs worth.


That coin is Ex Downies and graded MS62 by PCGS
http://www.pcgs.com/cert/30430760
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 Posted 06/11/2015  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add autocoupler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah Mate I realise that I was referring to the coin sweetap posted.
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 Posted 06/12/2015  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi and thank you for your comment autocoupler and trout. Yes coin has arrived today , Looks quite good and I'm pretty sure it is a genuine coin all the marks seem to be right. weight is 11.2-3 grams or 0.36 ozt or 0.39 oz. Which should be about right. I will get it checked anyway like I said in earlier post.

Can anyone put a value and grade on it for me please.
PS it looks better in hand than the photo in my opinion.

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 Posted 06/12/2015  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add autocoupler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it's been heavily cleaned in the fields as well as the blank section of the obverse legend above the king. Not sure how you would grade a coin like this, maybe somewhere between gVF and EF. I'm no authority on the subject but I've seen coins like this sell in the region of $250.
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 Posted 06/13/2015  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi again Autocoupler and thanks for replying. I'm not sure if its been cleaned as its very dirty but does have some staining on the field area but I think some of it would wipe of pretty easy.

I am happy with the grade and price as I thought maybe F to VF and was hoping for value of about $225 . I got it for a fair deal so I am thinking maybe sell it on and up grade a little bit. Thank you again for commenting.
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