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A Few Large Cents For Grading - 1812, 1820, 1833.

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These pictures turned out pretty good I think, and they do capture the true colour of the coins.

How would you grade this trio of large cents?

I would also be thankful for help on attribution of the 1820 and 1833.

Thanks for your help,


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A-Few-Large-Cents-For-Grading---1812,-1820,-1833.

A-Few-Large-Cents-For-Grading---1812,-1820,-1833.

A-Few-Large-Cents-For-Grading---1812,-1820,-1833.
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1) VF-20

2) VF-25/30

3) VG-08
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1) VF-20 or 25.
2) VF-20.
3) VG-8
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VF20
VF30
VG8
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Thank you for your input.
Any idea on the variety of the 1833?
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Wow, three really great coins.

The 1820 is die variety N-10 which is an R.2. The doubled T in LIBERTY is diagnostic as are the large berries on the reverse. This coin is a great example of an early die state. This coin has a great color and a lot of detail in the curls. I like this coin a lot.
As far as grade I'll say EAC 25 or VF-25 market grade.
1820 N-10 R.2 25/25

The 1831 is die variety N-3 which is an R.1. This coin is a shade too dark. Probably the result of a very early cleaning. The coin has retoned nicely though and I won't net grade it for that. The breakout from the stars to the rim is indicative of a mid to late die state.
As far as grade I will also grade this coin EAC 25 or VF-30 market grade. It has excellent detail sharpness.
1831 N-3 R.1 25/25

The 1812 is die variety S-290 which is an R.1. This coin has a great smooth planchet and honest color. It looks like it could use a brushing or maybe a bit of Verdi-Care. Another great coin though.
I love any reason to pull out Penny Whimsy.
As far as grade I will say that this is a solid EAC 10.
1812 S-290 R.1 10/10
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Thanks to all for your input.

Celticsoul, I totally agree with your grading. The 1820 is a very nice coin, with lovely colour, and VF25 "% EAC is spot on. Thank for identifying the variety for me.
The 1833 I must say I am not too fond of. I find the colour unappealing ( ebay impulse buy with poor pictures).
On the 1812, yes, again EAC 10 is correct in my opinion as well. The coin is better than VG8, and the surfaces are also quite nice which, as we know, is not obvious with classic cents.

Thanks again for your input.
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The 1831 is a nice coin don't discount it.
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This is an interesting comparison in grading standards, in this case NGC vs. EAC.

This coin (HA Archives) was graded NGC 35. My example is not too far regarding condition and, I dare, say overall appeal, yet we assign a grade of EAC 25.
Quite a difference, but often the case when comparing EAC vs TPG grading from what I have seen.

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