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1937 Dollar You Vs ICCS

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 Posted 06/07/2015  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfdollardan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow .. I wish guys.. it is AU55 but I forgot it at home so I cant photo the flip
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 Posted 06/07/2015  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Normic67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me that coin is not an AU-55 coin and I strongly disagree with ICCS. If that coin is AU-55 then an MS-63 example would look like a 70.

I even have am MS-63 37 dollar of my own and it looks just like the one you posted, sometimes ICCS makes mistakes... just like everyone else.
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Wow. It had to be net graded for a reason. Maybe we are just not seeing something. From the pictures the coin looks like it has lot's of luster left.
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I'm thinking there are small parallel hairlines on the coin.
Even from this picture, when I look carefully, there seems to be a few present. ICCS always net grades these types of coins and I suspect this is what happened.
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Look closely at the cheek, neck, hair. This coin has seen a touch of circulation. ICCS will not net grade an uncirculated coin as AU, they will net grade MS-60 if it's uncirculated. It graded AU because there is light wear on the high points.
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My interpretation of the photos was that there was a break in the lustre on the high points, most likely due to wear. Hence my guess of AU-58.
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I was too generous at MS61, but I agree, lots of chatter on neck, hair....it has seen some time in a pocket with other coins.
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ICCS will not net grade an uncirculated coin as AU, they will net grade MS-60 if it's uncirculated. It graded AU because there is light wear on the high point


I'm not sure I would agree with that as a 100% rule. ICCS can easily grade an AU on a technically acceptable MS60 problem coin. And especially true on a cleaned coin.


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My interpretation of the photos was that there was a break in the lustre on the high points, most likely due to wear. Hence my guess of AU-58.


One thing many have learned (myself included) about ICCS' grading style is that minor wear on the effigy means relatively little with good looking fields.
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Easy to see why I'm not in the grading business..

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I'm not sure I would agree with that as a 100% rule. ICCS can easily grade an AU on a technically acceptable MS60 problem coin. And especially true on a cleaned coin.


If it's uncirculated with zero wear, it's an MS-60, no lower. That's why I refrain from owning anything graded as such, since they are problem coins and severely beat up coins. An AU coin is quite often a better coin in nearly all regards.
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Coins in hand look very different, from those in photographs posted here... probably the reason why I don't offer my opinions of grade very often...
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