Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Cleaning Exterior Pliofilm Of 1960-S Silver PL Sets

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 7 / Views: 1,996Next Topic  
Valued Member
skip79's Avatar
Canada
403 Posts
 Posted 06/08/2015  12:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I acquired a bunch of silver PL sets (1961-67) in original pliofilm packaging, which were housed in plastic binder sleeves for (presumably) many years. The plastic sleeves housing the sets had all discoloured to yellow, and the sets were actually stuck inside of the plastic sleeves. After destroying the plastic sleeves to free the PL sets from their housing, I noticed the pliofilm surfaces on each set was very sticky. Not sure if anyone has experienced this, but I'd like to clean the surfaces of the pliofilm to remove the sticky substance, but I thought I'd query the forum for advice before proceeding since I'm concerned about a watery/soapy solution (or moisture thereof) inadvertently finding a way into any of the PL sets' individual coin pockets. Thoughts?
Pillar of the Community
ace_ftw's Avatar
Canada
1747 Posts
 Posted 06/08/2015  2:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, if the coins show any significant toning, you will know that they pliofilm is compromised. if there is no toning, I would say a mild soap and warm water, using a soft towel, and drying it after.
Valued Member
skip79's Avatar
Canada
403 Posts
 Posted 06/08/2015  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ace, that's kind of what I was thinking too. No silver has toned, but the 1¢ has some mild toning on 3 of the sets.
Pillar of the Community
ace_ftw's Avatar
Canada
1747 Posts
 Posted 06/08/2015  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just be careful not to drown the coins
Pillar of the Community
silverwolf's Avatar
Canada
3733 Posts
 Posted 06/08/2015  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
is there a smokey smell to the coin sheets. I would say it is environmental damage.most likely smoke, but yes a soft detergent applied to a cloth, test on a corner edge first , just to be safe..
Pillar of the Community
trout1105's Avatar
Australia
7096 Posts
 Posted 06/08/2015  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think a soak in acetone would be the best approach to this problem
Valued Member
skip79's Avatar
Canada
403 Posts
 Posted 06/08/2015  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silverwolf, there's no smokey smell whatsoever. I will try the detergent & damp cloth approach, carefully.

Failing that, perhaps Trout's suggestion will do the trick ;)

Thx all!
Moderator
Learn More...
Sap's Avatar
Australia
16829 Posts
 Posted 06/08/2015  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I would think a soak in acetone would be the best approach to this problem

Assuming you want to make all of the plastic go away (including the pliofilm), then yes, I'm sure this would solve the "problem".

Acetone has a tendency to depolymerize plastic. If you want a spectacular demonstration of this, splash a few drops of acetone onto a block of styrofoam. Do NOT use acetone on any plastic object you intend to keep. Seriously.

That being said, I'm not entirely sure the pliofilm is going to be saveable in this case. What we've got going on here sounds like solvent transfer. You may have experienced the phenomenon whereby a coin in a 2x2 sitting in a PVC album page gets "stuck" and needs to be prised out, usually destroying the plastic film of the 2x2 in the process? The same thing may have been happening here.

Solvent transfer can happen when two pieces of plastic, one heavily plasticized (the album page) and one not (the pliofilm or 2x2) are held together for prolonged periods - especially if pressure is applied (such as being placed into an album and then have heavy things stacked up on top of the album). Plasticizers and other entrapped solvents inside one of the plastics cross over and infuse into the other plastic. The surface of the second plastic is permanently changed, and no amount of "washing it" with anything is going to make the now-embedded plasticizers go away.

Personally, I'd take the coins out, throw the pliofilm away, and be thankful that the plasticizers hadn't diffused all the way through the pliofilm to attack the coins.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
  Previous TopicReplies: 7 / Views: 1,996Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.25 seconds to rattle this change. Forums