1947-S Lincoln Wheat Cent / LWC ... Double Clip Or Incomplete Plachet

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Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 06/12/2015 9:15 pm Well John1 here he is. I saw the tiny clip and threw it aside then as I got it out for the pics I noticed another even smaller clip at "we"... What do I have here guys There also something going on around LIB that doesn't look like PMD. Like an indentation from the the press or something Report this Post to the Staff

SilverStackerKid Pillar of the Community United States 6478 Posts	Posted 06/12/2015 11:11 pm Thank you for using gloves It might be, but wait for the real experts. I think it might be PMD Report this Post to the Staff
stoneman227 Pillar of the Community United States 2376 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 05:27 am Yup to my eye it's a double clip. Weakness of the rim leading into both clips. WE also looks like it may have taken a hit. The Blakesley effect is what you are seeing at Liberty. Cool coin ! Edited by stoneman227 06/13/2015 05:33 am Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 06:36 am Thanks for the pics. Your title has me confused,isn't a clipped planchet really an incomplete planchet? The area by WE looks PMD to me. The area at 3k looks like an incomplete planchet. Let's wait for coop. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 07:59 am Ya john, I was unsure if clip and incomplete planchet were different or interchangeable terms. How does a double clip happen if this is one? Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 08:15 am clipped A term for an irregularly cut planchet. A clip can be straight or curved, depending upon where it was cut from the strip of metal. Got this from the glossary. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 09:32 am ... thanks john or should I say "glossias" lol (child spanglish) I need to look up this Blakesley effect. I've heard it used before here in conjunction with clips but nobody has explained it in a thread. Report this Post to the Staff
Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 09:54 am Well, ken just told me about the Blakesley effect! Lol. Look at the 96 kennedy he pictured with double clips. Looks a lot like mine with a large and small one... http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...gnostics.htm Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 12:23 pm CCF glossary; Blakesley effect The weakness opposite the clip on a clipped planchet error coin. This occurs during the upsetting process, because of the clip there is a lack in pressure to upset the rim directly opposite the clip. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Slamnbass Pillar of the Community United States 3644 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 1:11 pm I agree definitely clipped planchet with the blakesly effect congrats on that one by WE I dont see tapering but I do see weakness and there's no raised metal but hard to tell could be PMD at the same time but I think I may see the blakesly effect also with this one? Hopefully an expert will confirm... Edited by Slamnbass 06/13/2015 1:20 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 1:59 pm It is a incomplete placnhet (two clips with Blakesley effect on both areas) Nice find. 63 Edited by coop 06/13/2015 2:00 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Slamnbass Pillar of the Community United States 3644 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 2:02 pm Thanks coop and looking closer I do see rim tapering on the right side on the clip by WE you can see it comes to a point-great find cascade! Report this Post to the Staff
Cascade Pillar of the Community United States 7390 Posts	Posted 06/13/2015 2:09 pm Thanks for the confirm coop, hope your feelin ok. You all know I'm a morgan and classics guy mostly so please elaborate. How great of a find is this being an old LWC double clip? Are doubles common-ish or rare-ish? And in terms of value, what, $25 +/- Report this Post to the Staff
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1947-S LWC... Double Clip Or Incomplete Plachet