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I notice people saying PSD and PMD. Let me guess what it means because I don't know. PSD is something that damaged the coin before it left the mint, and PMD is damage after it left the mint? Thanks!
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 Posted 06/14/2015  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

PSD = Post-Strike Damage
PMD = Post-Mint Damage
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 Posted 06/14/2015  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverStackerKid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, yeah, I know that part. :P I just don't know the difference.
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They both mean the same thing, it is an evolution of terms to try to more accurately express what is going on and to eventually reduce confusion.

PMD is normally referred to as meaning Post Mint Damage. It is actually supposed to mean Post MINTING Damage. But since people shorten the middle word it confuses people into thinking it means damage that occurs after it leaves the Mint. (And by extension that damage that occurs before it left the Mint is a Mint Error! Not true of course because there is no way to know if a damaged coin was damage inside or outside the Mint.) For that reason the term is evolving into PSD, Post STRIKE Damage referring to any damage that happens at any time after the coin is struck.

So while both terms mean the same thing, we need to try and stop using PMD and encourage the use of PSD.
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Thank you. I will start using PSD.
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I would like to say I will start using PSD but I know I will type PMD
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EDIT: Just noticed PSD does not come up highlighted?
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PSD is not in the Glossary.
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I think one example of PSD would be bag marks.
But also marks caused when the coins spill out of the striking chamber into the catch bins.
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There was a recent cent posted that was still in an undamaged mint set wrapper but showed major damage to the coin itself. A rare opportunity to show a significantly damaged coin released to the public . A good candidate for post strike damage
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I would like to say I will start using PSD but I know I will type PMD

Same It's just wired into my brain now!
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And by extension that damage that occurs before it left the Mint is a Mint Error! Not true of course because there is no way to know if a damaged coin was damage inside or outside the Mint.)


I have one that can be proved as damage inside the mint Condor101.

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Kid, I'm so very glad you asked this question, helped me also. Thanks.
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I don't think it will bring any value Razor, in fact, will probably degrade the value. But at the same time, it is neat. Jeff
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I don't think it will bring any value Razor, in fact, will probably degrade the value. But at the same time, it is neat. Jeff


Yep, it's very neat. I've never seen anything like this before, and I can't seem to find anything in my online searching either. Not only neat but scarce too. Might not bring any value, but I like that there aren't many/any examples out there like the one I have.
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The patterns of damage on that coin are very much a signiture of the thing that did it. What could it hurt to contact the mint about it. ID what did it and watch it's informational and collector value soar .
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I have one that can be proved as damage inside the mint Condor101.

How do you prove it happened in the Mint and not at the packaging facility? Mint sets were usually packaged by outside contractors.
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